Backhoe Hydraulics for Backhoe

[MadReferee]

Outside diameter doesn't say much. You need to know the inside diameter (probably around 7/8") then determine what you are going to use adapter and thread wise. You might want to give the people at Discount Hydraulic Hose a call and see what they have that might help you.

 

[jgbanshee]

If I am following the hydraulic lines correctly under the Ford parts website, the backhoe seems to connected before the loader valve in the series. Why is this way not recommended? The reason I bring this up is that I was looking over the current lines on the tractor and found the return to the tank has a drain plug for changing the fluid and Im not sure how to keep that in the system for easy fluid changes. Is connecting the valves in series is the same as power beyond or does the power beyond allow both attachments to work simultaneously?

 

[MadReferee]

Is connecting the valves in series is the same as power beyond or does the power beyond allow both attachments to work simultaneously?

All vavles must be connected in series regardless of whether or not they are configured for power beyond.

As I have explained many times before, power beyond is nothing more than how the control valve is configured. A valve configured for power beyond will exhaust the neutral pressure fluid from the work ports back to the tank instead of back into the main flow circuit. When the valve is not configured for power beyond the neutral pressure fluid dumped back into the circuit cannot operate valves downstream. In other words, if you want to operate a valve simultaneously with another valve further on in the circuit, all previous valves must have power beyond.

 

[jgbanshee]

So, if my backhoe has the power beyond I should then run the backhoe first in the series and the loader second?

 

[MadReferee]

Since I can't think of any time where you would be activating the loader valve simultaneously with the backhoe valve, it doesn't really matter.

Most loader valves are configured for power beyond and are usually the first in the circuit. Remotes and backhoes come next and the 3pt is usually last. It's usually easier to plumb the loader valve first and have the circuit work its way towards the back of the tractor. Less hoses running back and forth that way.

 

[jgbanshee]

Is an 8.5 gal reservoir on the tractor enough for a my backhoe that requires 9-14 gpm flow?

 

[jgbanshee]

I talked with the people at Bradco today and they said that the hydraulic reservoir on the tractor is fine and the 26 GPM is more than enough and I will probably run at low throttle. The person I talked to said that I would be better to use a diverter valve than running the loader and backhoe valves in series. He said that running them in series can ruin the valves.

Now, Bradco wants $750.00 for their hydraulics diverter kit for my tractor. I really dont know what to do. I cannot bend 1 in. steel tubing nor can I flare the ends. I have a local (10 miles away) hydraulic shop that I THINK can do it but I cant take my tractor there to bend the tubing to contour to the machine. Should I buy Bradcos kit or will it be much much cheaper to do it myself?

 

[MadReferee]

The person I talked to said that I would be better to use a diverter valve than running the loader and backhoe valves in series. He said that running them in series can ruin the valves.

That statement is a complete line of salesman's BS. The RED flag immediately goes up.

Now, Bradco wants $750.00 for their hydraulics diverter kit for my tractor. I really dont know what to do. I cannot bend 1 in. steel tubing nor can I flare the ends. I have a local (10 miles away) hydraulic shop that I THINK can do it but I cant take my tractor there to bend the tubing to contour to the machine. Should I buy Bradcos kit or will it be much much cheaper to do it myself?

That's why the first statement is BS. All they want you to do is buy their product that they will make several hundred dollars profit on. I would NEVER buy the Bradco kit.

Every single day several hundred thousand TLB's operate without problems that are plumbed with the loader and backhoe in series. Yours will run fine too.

 

[jgbanshee]

Thanks for the reply. I was pretty sure that you guys are right with what you are telling me and they are looking for profits in every way possible.

I have talked with my Ford dealer about the 764 model backhoe that was made for my tractor but hard to come by about the routing of hydraulics. The parts diagrams show the valves in series. They want like $300 just for the tubes and hoses not to mention all the fittings here and there.

In general, would it be cheaper to buy from Ford or buy parts here and there and bend and flare the tubing myself?

 

[MadReferee]

It's always cheaper to do it yourself, provided you have the skills, knowledge and proper tools to get the job done. That being said, if you are uncomforatble doing it yourself then spend the money buy an easy install kit. Only you can determine what to do.