hosejockey2002
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Yes a 1610D would be wonderful. Maybe someday.....
Hydraulics question
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King-
There is always the concern about balance on all but the largest tractors. There is abundant support here that the YM1401D has been successfully mounted and used with a front loader. We have mounted many YM1401Ds and have done so with smaller YM1300Ds. Three factors need to be considered when mounting a loader.
The first is the driver must become educated on responsible loader operation and there is much about that on the web and in loader manuals.
The second is understanding the need for proper balance of a tractor with or without loader.
The third aspect is understanding that there are many different loader designs. Some use engineered designs and others don't. Many loaders build strength into their system by using thicker materials while others engineer strength into their loaders by design and fabrication. Many loaders are considerably lighter and considerably stronger than non engineered and professionally fabricated loaders.
Don't look for a name but look for a design
You can email me here on private box at TBN if interested in some direction.
Bob
There is always the concern about balance on all but the largest tractors. There is abundant support here that the YM1401D has been successfully mounted and used with a front loader. We have mounted many YM1401Ds and have done so with smaller YM1300Ds. Three factors need to be considered when mounting a loader.
The first is the driver must become educated on responsible loader operation and there is much about that on the web and in loader manuals.
The second is understanding the need for proper balance of a tractor with or without loader.
The third aspect is understanding that there are many different loader designs. Some use engineered designs and others don't. Many loaders build strength into their system by using thicker materials while others engineer strength into their loaders by design and fabrication. Many loaders are considerably lighter and considerably stronger than non engineered and professionally fabricated loaders.
Don't look for a name but look for a design
You can email me here on private box at TBN if interested in some direction.
Bob
jimstractors
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Aric:
Here is a picture of a 1401d hydraulic tie in.
Here is a picture of a 1401d hydraulic tie in.
jimstractors
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Here is another view...
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Ym1401King
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My dealer that I purchased this tractor from was just getting started. This and a 1510 that was in BAD shape was all that he had, other than my dad's Mitsubishi 2220 or something like that. I purchased the 1410, not D with tiller for $2500.00. It only has 151 hours on it. Still "in the box" new condition. Some rust on the corner of the hood on the front above the headlights. Clean oil and everything else.
Aric
Aric
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Ym1401King
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Actually, I am going to change one of my statements above. I said that I wouldn't trade my tractor for any other. I lied. There is one that I don't know much about, but its the Ke3d, that looks so appealing. If I had the money and was offered a decent trade in, I would consider trading in my 1401 for the Ke3d with loader, and tiller.
Aric in Preston, Idaho
Aric in Preston, Idaho
hosejockey2002
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I don't know much about the Ke3 either, other than its about the same size as a 1401. So, where the rubber meets the dirt, it probably won't do anything that a 1401D won't do. The first time I saw one I thought it looked pretty cool, but IMO tractors are about function, not form, so if I move up, it will be because the new machine will DO more, not just look cool. BUT, if you get one, we want to hear all about it! /w3tcompact/icons/grin.gif
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Ym1401King
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Jimbo,
Let me pose one more question for you. I am also thinking about getting that Johnny Bucket for the front instead of a loader all together, or building one. I would need to adapt some type of hitch on the front though, and some way to raise and lower the implement on the front though. So, I would need a double acting cylinder. Do, you know where I can get the pressure fittings for the hydraulic lines, and how do I know what size of valve to use, like gpm, and how do I route it so that I can still use the 3-pt.? I would adapt that Johnny bucket thing, so it would lift off of the cylinder. Also, on cylinders, the bore is how large the shaft it, correct? Or does the bore mean that is the speed? I was thinking of a 2" bore. Just a shot in the dark. Please give me a hydraulics clue. At the most this thing would weigh with material and everything, about 500 lbs.
Aric
Let me pose one more question for you. I am also thinking about getting that Johnny Bucket for the front instead of a loader all together, or building one. I would need to adapt some type of hitch on the front though, and some way to raise and lower the implement on the front though. So, I would need a double acting cylinder. Do, you know where I can get the pressure fittings for the hydraulic lines, and how do I know what size of valve to use, like gpm, and how do I route it so that I can still use the 3-pt.? I would adapt that Johnny bucket thing, so it would lift off of the cylinder. Also, on cylinders, the bore is how large the shaft it, correct? Or does the bore mean that is the speed? I was thinking of a 2" bore. Just a shot in the dark. Please give me a hydraulics clue. At the most this thing would weigh with material and everything, about 500 lbs.
Aric
hosejockey2002
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Aric-
If you're going to go to all the trouble to put a johnny bucket on the front with hydraulics, you might as spend some more money and put a real loader on it. Here is a short list of things you can do with a loader that you probably can't do with that johnny bucket.
Load a pickup, pile loose material up high, lift heavy objects and carry them- I use mine to move snowmobiles, pickup canopys, big tires and other things I'd rather not carry. Spread gravel, topsoil or other material, dig small stumps, light clearing and grading, plow snow, the list can go on. If you put a loader on your 2WD 1401, you're going to want a 500 lb. or so counterweight and filled tires.
On the other hand, if you want to move material on a budget, <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/LLCategoryDisplayView?storeId=6970&langId=-1&catalogId=4006970&PHOTOS=on&TEST=Y&productId=719088&categoryId=1510> click here </A> I've never used one, but a lot of guys in this forum have used pond scoops with great success, and they are cheap and easy to install, and probably perfect for you 2wd tractor. Good luck.
If you're going to go to all the trouble to put a johnny bucket on the front with hydraulics, you might as spend some more money and put a real loader on it. Here is a short list of things you can do with a loader that you probably can't do with that johnny bucket.
Load a pickup, pile loose material up high, lift heavy objects and carry them- I use mine to move snowmobiles, pickup canopys, big tires and other things I'd rather not carry. Spread gravel, topsoil or other material, dig small stumps, light clearing and grading, plow snow, the list can go on. If you put a loader on your 2WD 1401, you're going to want a 500 lb. or so counterweight and filled tires.
On the other hand, if you want to move material on a budget, <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/LLCategoryDisplayView?storeId=6970&langId=-1&catalogId=4006970&PHOTOS=on&TEST=Y&productId=719088&categoryId=1510> click here </A> I've never used one, but a lot of guys in this forum have used pond scoops with great success, and they are cheap and easy to install, and probably perfect for you 2wd tractor. Good luck.
jimstractors
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Aric,
Check out the email I sent you.
Jim
Check out the email I sent you.
Jim
