I need a bigger 'you know what'

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I need a bigger \'you know what\'

A bigger tractor ? Maybe. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

A bigger 3pt carryall ? For sure /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

My wife recieved some 'free' rocks from the contractor working the property behind my house. Not quite sure why we needed more rocks, but the wife can't turn down anything that's free.

So, here's what a 3pt carryall looks like when you find the structural limitation. Sure could have used a 'risk manager' before I embarked on this project.

All things considered, I'm glad that the $60 implement gave out before something more expensive.
 

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Here's a close up of the damage. The damage looks localized, but it's really twisted all over. I don't think I can bend it back into shape without a big fire.
 

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Ain't it the truth that price and convenience are nearly always inversely related! I get free rocks and firewood up the hillside and free sand down the road where the culverts silt up, but boy does it take a long time to move that free stuff to where I can use it! /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

Now and then I'll pay to have a truckload of sand dumped conveniently in my driveway. Sure makes life simpler...but then I sulk at what it cost me!

Pete
 
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Here's the rock that did the damage. Or was it the operator? I'll have to think about that.

I lost a battle but ended up winning the war by wrapping a chain around it and dragging it about 100ft.
 

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I checked the local tractor yard looking for a replacement for the carryall. All they have is the wimpy kind that I just bent up. They said they don't know of any heavier models. I was looking to put cat 1 pins in a cat2 implement. But, they said they've never seen a cat2 carryall /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
 
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Oh ya, there's also another rock I need to move. It's about three times bigger than the one that nearly beat me. I've already tried moving it with a chain. I hooked up in various places and pulled from various angles.

That rock is not gonna budge. /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gifI'm definately gonna need a bigger tractor. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif
 
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Here is one of our member's carryalls..He also has installed casters underneath so that it can be rolled around when not hooked to the tractor..With the box on it, you will not pick up more than it can handle.. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
 

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Why don't you remove the pin, hammer the bent piece back in shape, and scab weld a piece of angle over it to beef it up?

For symmetry, you could do that on the other side as well. Even if you paid someone to weld it, shouldn't cost as much as a new one.

Best wishes,
Ron
 
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Suggest to the wife that she bake the contractor some cookies and have them deliver the rocks. If they got the equipment to do it with, it would be a great deal for you.
 
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The contractor did deliver the rocks. He used a wheeled loader with about a ten yard bucket. He just did'nt put them in the final locations. I'll have to ask him to move and position the bigger one for sure.

They dug up a rock that was bigger than my car. My wife asked for that one too. No answer yet on that one.

I'm gonna try to bend the carryall back into shape. But, it's bent in a lot more places than what's shown in the attachment. If I can straighten it to a reasonable degree, then I will weld it up to be stronger.
 
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Why not use your loader to roll the larger rocks into place. That is how I put some large rocks in place with my B2910.
No guarantee on the condition of the lawn after your done. /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
 
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Jerry,
That bottom piece of angle looks like it has a pretty good tweaking bend in it too.
 
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I'm no geologist, but I'm pretty sure that qualifies as a "Boulder".

Is that thing within the specs for the 3PH?
 
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If you're going to be bending and welding this thing back into shape anyhow, why don't you buy yourself some scrap square tube stock and reinforce all of your angle iron with that? You'll more than double the strength of your carry all that way. You still won't be able to move the latest boulder the wife requested, but it'll probably carry anything your tractor will lift back there. Just a thought... /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Good luck with whatever you decide to do. I hope this helps. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
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Have you considered making smaller rocks out of them big ones? Might be cheaper. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
 
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Jerry, I've seen several posts in the past about folks using skids to move big rocks. One of them uses a hood off an old car for a skid. Now I'm not suggesting you make a trip to the local junkyard, but you might look around for something flat you could use as a skid and pull the rock into place with your tractor. You'll have to use the FEL to roll the rock onto the skid and then attach a chain and go. The skid will reduce the chance of your making a big mess rolling or draging a rock into place on your lawn. ...just a thought.
 
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When they cleared the lot for our house they came across a lot of rocks big as cars. Some were movable.. others they worked around (bus sized and larger). The car sized that were moved took a large bulldozer to get them moving. Good luck with that one your wife wants.. Make sure they put it right where you want it the first time!
 
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Jim, I have a sled that is used for hauling deere out of the woods. It's pretty tough and I've used it to move a few rocks. The one in the pictue is just too large to fit on it. A hood from a car would have worked nicely. Dragging it with a chain worked out pretty well.

As for the other rock that was dropped off. (see attachment) I have tried pulling with a chain and pushing with the FEL. I cannot move this rock more than an inch in any direction. I also cannot flip it or roll it.
 

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Kinda looks like a stand off. /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
 
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Wifo makes one that might work for you. It might be a little big but they have lighter duty models that will suit you fine. This is the Wifo model PCF. It can be adjusted to work on the loader which was the reason we bought it or it can work on the 3pt which is a added bonus. The forks can be moved in or out to suit the pallets or "rocks" that you will haul. This one has a 3 ton rating and is quite heavy but still manageable. I paid $500 for this one used thru my dealer. Don't know what a new one will cost but you might be able to find out thru your local dealer.
 

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