exiled said:
Your post takes this converstion to new places thank you. !st and foremost. I do not regret buying green. Nor do I regret buying that machine. I just dont see someone giving me $16,000 and I treat them this way. Dude knows I'm coming back to buy a haycutter, rake, and bailer. No not this week, and maybe not this year. I hope it is this summer I'll just have to see if cattle drops anymore or start coming back up. If your into this busness than your aware just how much where talking about. $16000 will barely cover a used new bailer.
No my bill just says as is. I dont assume anything. It just never dawned on me that I would have to wait for somebody to do nothing at all or that I could buy a machine from a dealer that was low on fluids. See thats the point. The name John Deere stands on its own. It does'nt need a pencil pusher to move it's products. How do you sell something to someone and dont even check to see if it's fluids are full?
I did'nt waste any time dealing w/ it. I just brought the tractor home yesterday. I know the manger was'nt there yesterday. Cause I was going to ask him what was the "meaning" of getting a tractor "ready" while I waited for the saleman to find the pins for my brand new mx6 cutter that should have been already "ready". I want my customers to tell me if I did or did'nt do something that bothered them. I did'nt ask for he saleman to throw anything in for free. I did'nt bother him for a hat. I did'nt try to talk his price down. I'm not asking for anything I did'nt pay for. It is crappy busness to sell anything that is'nt suitable under a banner that states its products are better than any other.
No I have'nt made a mistake. If I make a mistake I'll say so. I cant even say I made the mistake of doing busness w/ a bad dealership. I had no way of knowing that this was going to go down like this. I live and I learn. The mistake was on their part. I will tell everybody. I'm a supervisior at a grain elevator. Thats right there is alot of green blooded farmers that I see everyday. I'm talking farmers that truely trust me. Monday morning I'll even call the busness burue.
Well most of what Im going to say has already been said. In my younger days (hot headed and a big pride) I would do what you say, dont talk to the dealer and take your friends with you to another dealer.
A bunch older now and sometimes I want to think wiser, I would swallow my pride, take their offer and then decide if you want to go to another dealer. I wouldnt take my friends with me, that may kick you in the butt. If you take your friends with you to another dealer and they have a bad experience, they may blame you, good way to lose friends.
You will be the bigger person, if you do what your wife says and give them a chance to fix their mess and at least you might get some sort of closer, this means more as you get older. As my wife tells me often, "you should have listened to me" So do what she said and you will be a bigger man.
It sounds like they dropped the ball (bad salesman) but are willing to make it right. I always check the fluids in anything Im buying, it will tell stories, if you look good. I look for oil in water, water in oil, metal in hyd fluid, leaking cylinders, etc. I try to get a oil sample if I can, this is pretty popular now and most dealers can offer this, if you ask for it. More than likely, if you trade something in, they will do a oil sample.
As far as the dirty machine, they shouldnt have been trying to demo it in this condition, bad idea. You should have made them clean and service the machine before you signed the contract, its hard to check a machine out, that is that dirty.
OK Im finished, let the dealer make it right, make sure the owner knows about the crappy salesman. You might find out that next time you might get a better deal, because they sc-ewed you the first time.
A little of this was your fault, so realise it. I have been there and do that. Forgot JD green is the best