If buying new what would You Buy

   / If buying new what would You Buy #21  
I picked up a camo Honda Pioneer 4. A great all around UTV. Very smooth and fairly quiet with a sporty feel when on the trails. I've had four adults in it. You can feel the extra weight but still packs us all just fine though I do recommend stiffing the rear shocks. Unlike the Honda Big Red it has a locked rear drive so you have to be careful turning on lawns and asphalt (faster tire wear). As long as you don't turn sharp it's fine. A few complain it has to much engine brake, I wish it had a bit more. Not a power house but has the power to get you where you need to go and do what you need. Engine and (car like) tranny has been in the Rincon and proven to be super reliable. I defiantly recommend this UTV to others.
 
   / If buying new what would You Buy #22  
Looks like an AWD golf cart.
 
   / If buying new what would You Buy #23  
Looks like an AWD golf cart.
A google search found this: E-Z GO ST 4x4 - EZ GO ST 4x4

ST4x4[1].jpg
 
   / If buying new what would You Buy #24  
You get what you pay for. If you can find used and in good condition, you'll be better off. A golf cart is not intended for serious off road playing.

The Rhino has one of the best 4wd proven systems on the market. Tough and dependable. Hard to find a cheap one used because they hold their value. Just be sure to check the compression to make sure the motor hasn't been sunk in deep water. Also check the differentials for water and that the breather hoses are in place.
 
   / If buying new what would You Buy #25  
You get what you pay for. If you can find used and in good condition, you'll be better off. A golf cart is not intended for serious off road playing.
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This doesn't sound like a golf cart. Copied from previous link.

EZ GO ST 4x4 Features:
Honda's four-cycle 18 horsepower 614 cc gas engine, hot-dipped galvanized steel frame, and molded-in Recon Green composite front cowl.​

Other standard features include:​
dash mounted analog electric fuel gauge
two drink holders
a dash-mounted radio/cell phone holder
headlights
25" Stryker off road tires
lighted parking brake indicator
low oil indicator
front and rear differential lock indicator
four wheel drive indicator​
Total vehicle maximum payload (including passengers, gear, and fuels): 1500 lbs.
Rotomolded polymolded dump bed maximum payload capacity: 1100 lbs.

Looks like a UTV for serious working to me.
ST-4x4 [3].jpg


 
   / If buying new what would You Buy #26  
The Kubota RTV's are great work/farm machines.
But they are certainly not great trail machines.
Slow with suspension not set up for trail riding.

Took my RTV900 to Colorado this year and couldn't be happier with the performance. Most of the trails I ride in Colorado, 10 to 15 mph is as fast as you want to go no matter what you are riding. And they will run 25 mph all day.
 
   / If buying new what would You Buy #27  
Took my RTV900 to Colorado this year and couldn't be happier with the performance. Most of the trails I ride in Colorado, 10 to 15 mph is as fast as you want to go no matter what you are riding. And they will run 25 mph all day.
Glad your happy with it for trail riding.
But I wouldn't be.
My Kawasaki Brute Force 750 ATV has aftermarket shocks for a nice smooth ride over the bumps at higher speeds
It will pull the front wheels when I accelerate hard from a stop and will quickly get to 70 MPH. And I'm am still wanting for more speed and power.
 
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   / If buying new what would You Buy #28  
Glad your happy with it for trail riding.
But I wouldn't be.
My Kawasaki Brute Force 750 ATV has aftermarket shocks for a nice smooth ride over the bumps at higher speeds
It will pull the front wheels when I accelerate hard from a stop and will quickly get to 70 MPH. And I'm am still wanting for more speed and power.

:eek:

Sounds like you are more into racing rather than enjoying the trail. Wanting more than 70mph on a trail? That's crazy! You remind me of the teen kid on a dirt bike trail up in Wayne NF. Came around a curve fast and dumped the bike to avoid me, he wasn't expecting anyone else on the trail. Twisted his ankle and minor damage to the bike. His dad arrived and said "I keep telling him to slow down but he won't listen."
 
   / If buying new what would You Buy #29  
I thought this would be a broad range of discussion, and I wasn't disappointed. Neither I, nor anyone else on this thread can tell you what UTV you need. The uses are even more broad than with a CUT. Your interpretation of trail riding will be much different than ours. The same with your interpretation of a good work model.

I have a Rhino. I like it's sporty feel. I also like it's utilitarian abilities. I don't like it's low side, too high geared. Also don't like that reverse is too fast. Otherwise, it's a great machine for me. Bought it used for $7K with 25 miles on it and one tiny scratch in the plastic.

Around here there are a lot of Polaris machines. Their weakness seems to be in the front differential. A lot of failures.

The toughest UTV I've been around is the Kawasaki Teryx (sp). The guy abuses this thing everytime he cranks it with no failures to date.
 
   / If buying new what would You Buy #30  
I will say that the Rhinos have proven themselves over the years, with plenty of them sold. Yes, there have been some trashed and had problems but overall, they are very good machines. Good resale value.
The motor's lineage goes back to the TT 500 motorcycle back in '76. But with many improvements over the years.
 
   / If buying new what would You Buy #31  
:eek:

Sounds like you are more into racing rather than enjoying the trail. Wanting more than 70mph on a trail? That's crazy! You remind me of the teen kid on a dirt bike trail up in Wayne NF. Came around a curve fast and dumped the bike to avoid me, he wasn't expecting anyone else on the trail. Twisted his ankle and minor damage to the bike. His dad arrived and said "I keep telling him to slow down but he won't listen."

It reminds me of this kid that had one of them tall mighty Brute Forces with tons of suspension, following me on my little Honda Rubicon 500 along a steep side slope trail repairing a fence line. I heard this ruckus and looked back to see the super unstable mighty beast rolling down the slope. Glad I was carrying the posts and barbed wire.
 
   / If buying new what would You Buy #32  
It reminds me of this kid that had one of them tall mighty Brute Forces with tons of suspension, following me on my little Honda Rubicon 500 along a steep side slope trail repairing a fence line. I heard this ruckus and looked back to see the super unstable mighty beast rolling down the slope. Glad I was carrying the posts and barbed wire.
A good set of aftermarket shocks on the Brutes have sag and lowers the machine a couple inches. And the suspension works SO much better I couldn't believe the difference in ride and stability.
In addition to the aftermarket shocks and the machine setting lower, mine has also been widened by 4". Stable as any ATV I have ever ridden
 
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   / If buying new what would You Buy #33  
If you want a REAL work horse buy the Kubota RTV 900 or 1100,it will haul a chitload and plow snow all day long.If you want a rice burner to tear up and down trails,valleys and will not really haul to much buy something different than the Kubota RTV.
 
   / If buying new what would You Buy #34  
If you want a REAL work horse buy the Kubota RTV 900 or 1100,it will haul a chitload and plow snow all day long.If you want a rice burner to tear up and down trails,valleys and will not really haul to much buy something different than the Kubota RTV.
That's the point a few of us here have been trying get across all along
 
   / If buying new what would You Buy #36  
   / If buying new what would You Buy #37  
If you want a REAL work horse buy the Kubota RTV 900 or 1100,it will haul a chitload and plow snow all day long.If you want a rice burner to tear up and down trails,valleys and will not really haul to much buy something different than the Kubota RTV.

Or if you want a truly good machine that works well for both which if I recall the OP said he wanted you can get a Gator or Polaris Ranger and not have to compromise. If you want a BX tractor with a small dump bed then buy the RTV and watch everyone else have fun trail riding after all their chores are done. They will haul a chitload and plow snow all day long as well but they will do something a Kubota won't.....go over 35 mph.
 
   / If buying new what would You Buy #38  
Or if you want a truly good machine that works well for both which if I recall the OP said he wanted you can get a Gator or Polaris Ranger and not have to compromise. If you want a BX tractor with a small dump bed then buy the RTV and watch everyone else have fun trail riding after all their chores are done. They will haul a chitload and plow snow all day long as well but they will do something a Kubota won't.....go over 35 mph.
OH boy I get to watch everyone else trail ride and have fun after all of there chores are done to funny.So you are telling me and the orginal OP a ranger,honda,JD, will haul just as much as the Kubota RTV 900 & 1100?Post your specs?I guess your opinion is like the tortoise and hare theory?EDIT,I thought the orginal OP stated in post#12 he was interested in HONDA or POLARIS.I did not see any mention of JD GATOR?
 
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   / If buying new what would You Buy #39  
DIXIEDOG;3539194...but they will do something a Kubota won't.....go over 35 mph.[/QUOTE said:
Well...then don't buy a Deere 855D. They top out at 32 MPH....
 
   / If buying new what would You Buy #40  
OH boy I get to watch everyone else trail ride and have fun after all of there chores are done,to funny.So you are telling me and the OP a ranger,honda,JD, will haul just as much as the Kubota RTV 900 & 1100?Post your specs?I guess your opinion is like the tortoise and hare theory?EDIT,I thought the orginal OP stated in post#12 he was interested in HONDA or POLARIS.I did not see any mention of JD GATOR?



So how often do you load your bed to full capacity? I'm not sure what the RTV's are rated for but I know my Gator is rated at 1K....I've loaded it with concrete bags, fence posts, fence, chainsaws, firewood, post diggers and various other junk since I've had to haul around fence lines and it's yet to struggle with anything so far. I've seen a lot of pictures of RTV's that were "loaded heavy" but it is usually firewood that would be lucky to weigh 300 lbs.

The competitors can even do it uphill at more than a snails pace.:shocked:
 

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