If you're causcasian you're in big trouble

[cowboydoc]

Re: If you\'re causcasian you\'re in big trouble

What are the websites that you search for that stuff on?

 

[Chuck52]

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Patrick,

My point is that I do not see the need that you apparently perceive. I do not think that we are generating any such underclass. Immigrants with other languages have come in the past and they or their children have learned English. I believe that will continue to be the case without a law. I don't believe that sink-or-swim is the best way to teach water safety or language skills, so I have no problem with trying to address language problems in our schools. I do not believe that the U.S. will somehow lose our ability to do business with the rest of the world if we do not declare English to be our official language. Do I see harm in such a law? I imagine someone could find a way to abuse it. That's what laws are for, nicht var?

Chuck

 

[Redfisher]

Re: If you\'re causcasian you\'re in big trouble

<font color=blue>While we're at it, screw the EU too, can't trust anyone but the Canadians</font color=blue>

Well Thank-You.......I think./w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

And we have two official languages(I really hated to learn french when i was in school)

 

[cowboydoc]

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Yes it seems just like our children we can't learn from others mistakes. If we don't pass laws saying that English is the official language before you know it we will have what Canada has with Quebec and the rest of Canada. Just ask any Canadian how well they have integrated into the Canadian society. So I guess we'll just sit back like Chuck has suggested and we'll let the southwestern states become predominantly Mexican, and no offense to the Mexicans. Then they can have their "US" and we'll have ours. Everybody can learn Spanish and English. We'll increase taxes to pay for it all and everyone will be two separate families. But hey that will never happen.

 

[livincountry]

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My wife and I are foster parents going on 7 years of service. There is an agency here in Ohio called WIC (women, infants, children). It is likely in every state by this or some other name. The county we live in employs a great deal of migrant workers in two areas: seasonal vegetable picking & plant nursery workers. This is tough work and Mexicans are welcomed here since not many locals are willing to break their backs to do this. Our local WIC office has hired a spanish translater because many migrants have babies here and WIC is required to assist the mothers with milk, etc. I am OK with assitance but I feel they should attempt to learn the local language. The flow of obligation is one directional. We need to put in place a limit on assistance as has been done with welfare.

 

[TresCrows]

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I will stick with what I said, only the Unired States, the only remaining true super power, for the time being, has the economic might, the military power, the willing population (look at the polls), the wealth and the technology to carry the fight to any enemy and win all by it's self. That may not always be the case such as we are striding a historic turning point from which the outcome cannot be guaranteed. Nonetheless, at this time in history, only the USA has ALL the needed elements in one package. Again, from the Death of the West, religious attendence and stated alligence to a faith and more particularly Christianity is on a world wide decline, only here in the US are the numbers holding roughly steady, actually some decline in church attendence but no remarkable decline in the yes answer to the "do you believe in God?" question. There are several other sources for this info. In Europe the churches are attended by old and dying folks and the peers are virtually empty. There is no fervour there or moral grounding for a such a moral/military stand as may be needed. Only people who are willing to die for their beliefs will defend their beliefs ultimately and Europe cannot be counted upon in this regard. Japan has it's problems with a giant communist state a stones throw away and Russia is too weak and lacking the moral substance to be much help now either. Canada is our friend and neighbor and I think we are headed in time to a Pan-North American economic unit including Mexico but for now despite her best intentions they can only lend their valued assistance.
We are on the threshold of a long and occasionally bloody conflict, most of which will be fought with words and ideas, but some will be on the battle field and unfortunately some will be here in North America, it is only a matter of time until Small Pox or a nucleor weapon is used against us, will we have the guts, the determination, the moral clarity to defend ourselves, not because our culture or religious viewpoints are better but because we have a right to exist and believe as we wish?
Will we be swallowed up or will we use our might to defend our future existence? The time is now, 10 years, 20 years from now it will be too late.
J

 

[wroughtn_harv]

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<font color=blue>The flow of obligation is one directional.</font color=blue>

I find that a very interesting observation. And I do have to agree with you.

You might call it the Sam Walton model of doing business. You bring in workers that you don't plan on paying benefits because the government is going to do it for you.

Those workers coming in and busting their butts do so with the understanding that the compensation does include those provided by the state.

The benefits are humanitarian and the biggest benefactor is the business subsidized by WIC. It is after all the WIC's benefits that bring in the workers they can't do without. Then shouldn't we be considering their picking up the costs rather than curtailing humanitarian aid?

It's sorta like explaining to the kids about fraud. You teach them to look for who really is getting the candy. In this case it isn't the workers and their families. It's the companys that are subsidized by our taxes, yours and mine, hard earned taxes btw.

 

[wroughtn_harv]

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Morning Steve,

I find your observations about the oriental areas interesting. The first thing is of course that isn't a cheap neighborhood. They do pay very high property taxes. Which I do believe entitles them to police protection and education benefits. Those you're worrying about falling through the cracks pay rent which in turn, again entitles them to all the benefits of being a homeowner. That's what rent is all about.

I agree that some don't want to face change. They are stuck in the past and want the world to stop because they are comfortable there. For some it might be refusing to learn a new language even though it's cutting off their nose to spite their face doing so. We see this in all races, the stubborness and wishing things to not change.

Of course I know you're right about some of them not wanting assimilate into our culture. It's a perfectly understandable attitude. Just yesterday a young man, forty, who has adopted me as his father in so many ways was telling about giving Everson Walls an estimate on some work for his home. He, my kiddo of kind, is from Wisconsin.

So Everson was trying to impress him with his tales of being a Dallas Cowboy. Kiddo then had to explain to him that he didn't really remember him in pro ball. If he didn't play for the Packers he couldn't have been much of a player.

That is the ultimate example of not wanting to assimilate and become part of the community!

Just as an aside what would be your guesstimate of just which is going to cost those communities more. Worldcom's implosion or local welfare?

 

[wroughtn_harv]

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What I found most interesting about the settlement story Chuck was that those responsible for initiating or not initiating the situation where the state was liable for damages were not the bad guys.

You have to wonder about alleged corporate and personal responsibility one liners from the likes of Rush and Bell when the officials who caused the infraction are considered victims and those who were victimized are considered predators. I mean weren't these managers supposedly professionals and shouldn't they have protected the state from such litigation?

The one thing we do know is the state was in the wrong. We know this because in our system of justice we have this way of telling just who screwed up. They're the ones crying as they go to the bank.........to make a withdrawal.

 

[wroughtn_harv]

Re: If you\'re causcasian you\'re in big trouble

<font color=blue>It's all trickle down.</font color=blue>

Well it used to be.

But Bush decided that didn't work and changed it after 9-11.

He's decided along with the rest of us that it's really "bubble up".

I know this because when they were scrambling to keep the eonomy from imploding after the WTC Tragedy he didn't run out and tell all the wealthy individuals to go ahead and build that new home. He didn't beg for industry to build that new plant.

No him and his got down on their knees and begged and pleaded for the consumer to spend spend spend spend.

If that isn't proof that bubble up works far better than trickle down I'll eat a bug.