Illegal to use #2 Heating Oil in Machinery in MA

[Egon]

What kinda of fines do you folks have for using the wrong fuel in highway circumstances?

Thanks Mike and Weedhopper for the explanations.

It sounds like using furnace fuel in one of the new low sulphur compliant diesel engines could turn into a costly repair situation.

 

[ccsial]

What kinda of fines do you folks have for using the wrong fuel in highway circumstances?

I know a construction worker who was fined $10,000 for having red fuel in his pickup here in Illinois.

 

[Sully2]

Where I am.."AG" diesel and home heating oil are identical...ON ROAD diesel is totally different ( ULSD fuel)

 

[LBrown59]

Just got off the phone with my Oil dealer. He says that recent laws (at least in MA) prohibit using anything other than Low Sulphur on-road diesel in machinery. I was planning on setting up an aux. 30 gal tank for the fill up when I get my oil delivered, but now I guess I'm back to saving receipts and applying for the tax rebate for non-road usage.

Now is when I'd be sitting up a 30 gallon drum like this rig and filling it from the home fuel tank and forgeting about having the oil dealer fill the 30 gallon tank.
Who's going to be any the wiser?

http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk286/lb59/100_2303.jpg

The way this one this is rigged you don't need the oil guy to fill it.
You can do it yourself at home right out of your home heating tank.
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[Deerlope]

I would be will to bet that there are a lot more untuned home heating units out there than diesel engines. Its all a crock if you ask me.

 

[LBrown59]

I pay for on road diesel and I put it in 5 gallon jugs in my PU and I hate transfering it.
*there has to be a better, easier way

*Here it is.
http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk286/lb59/100_2303.jpg
This will empty those 5 gallon jugs sparring you from ever having to lift them.

 

[LBrown59]

1* my Oil dealer says that recent laws (at least in MA) prohibit using anything other than Low Sulfur on-road diesel in machinery.
2*As a side note...... I find it difficult to believe your current heating oil is not dyed ULSD.

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1*That wouldn't work here as we only have one fuel.
2*It probably is.
Looks more like a ploy by the state to make you pay un-owed tax on fuel used off road.

 

[TomOfTarsus]

Indeed. My dealer (1st time buyer) responded that I could not use HHO in my tractor, as well. I said, oh, okay, I'll just use this in the oil burner in the shed... He replied, ok, no problem. You can buy whatever you want, he need not know, nor control, nor give a rat's backside about where or how you use it. Tell him you curl your hair with it.

'Tis an odd requirement if you think about it. Based on my first two usages, if I go thru 10 gal of diesel this summer I'll be amazed. But I see 300 gal. tanks on homes (I don't heat with oil), so I'd bet heating a home for the winter uses easily 10x that much - with the resulting sulfur oxides heading straight up the chimney.

I know I'm a lightweight deisel user, but still, there must be far more sulfur going up the chimney from homes than from off-road machinery. I may be wrong.

ETA: Cross-posted with LBrown59 and about 10 others, agree with his last statement. My "indeed" was aimed at gemin5362's post, bottom of pg 1.

 

[Z-Michigan]

I know I'm a lightweight deisel user, but still, there must be far more sulfur going up the chimney from homes than from off-road machinery. I may be wrong.

I think you may be right. Vehicles and engines are always viewed as an easy target for the politicians. But home furnaces - all their Northeastern urban and suburban voters will scream bloody murder that they can't afford to heat their 100 year old, uninsulated houses! And the other big source of politicians on the left coast barely has furnaces due to their climate. But anyone who makes internal combustion engines must be rich, evil, and should be punished by government regulation.

Sorry, a bit of a rant, but I do think you identify a huge, gaping split between regulation of two emissions sources that I don't see a rational reason for treating differently.

 

[Luremaker]

...I know I'm a lightweight deisel user, but still, there must be far more sulfur going up the chimney from homes than from off-road machinery. I may be wrong...

A friend of mine uses $5000/month of off road diesel to run his dozers and other equipment and he is not even a large contractor. Someone here also stated that one farmer was using $1200 of diesel everyday during the harvest season. I would guess that there is a lot of off road diesel being consumed every day.