Illegal to use #2 Heating Oil in Machinery in MA

[LBrown59]

*When I order fuel, I have to remove the pump or they won't fill the tank.

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That's nuts.
It's your fuel not the suppliers.

 

[LBrown59]

Just got off the phone with my Oil dealer. He says that recent laws (at least in MA) prohibit using anything other than Low Sulphur on-road diesel in machinery. I was planning on setting up an aux. 30 gal tank for the fill up when I get my oil delivered, but now I guess I'm back to saving receipts and applying for the tax rebate for non-road usage.

How can they tell that you have home heating oil in your tractor>>> ? <<<

 

[Iowachild]

How can they tell that you have home heating oil in your tractor>>> ? <<<

That's what the UNIMARK is for. See post #7 of this thread.

 

[LBrown59]

That's what the UNIMARK is for. See post #7 of this thread.

That still don't mean what's in the tank is in the tractor~~.

 

[LBrown59]

That's what the UNIMARK is for.

That tells me it's red.
It don't tell me what it is.
== L B ==

 

[Iowachild]

That tells me it's red.
It don't tell me what it is.
== L B ==

No Unimark is not the red dye, it's a maker only detectable with a scanner, in addition to the dye. Have you noticed how the price of home heating oil keeps going up? My guess; if the government can't get co-operation with the marker dyes, they will with price. Once home heating oil costs as much as off road diesel, there will be no incentive to cheat. BTW This is all about sulfur content, not taxes. (EPA not IRS)

 

[shinnlinger]

IOwa,

I can see the newest tractors with emissions equipment needing ulsd, but what about folks like me with 30+ YO machines? If I run a higher sulfur heating oil in them am I hurting them? I mean 30 years ago the diesel was high suffur too, Right?

ANd you raise a good point, I think I can get my 55 gallon drum filled with off road diesel cheaper then heating oil at the moment so it is kinda a mute point, but for the record I am curious if high sulfur hurts older engines.

THanks.

 

[rixtory]

I called my HHO company today. Price now is $3.818 for LSD HHO and $3.975 for ULSD HHO. They said they could get me either one (150 minimum).
I pad $2.975 in December and $3.188 in March.
I am using my minivac now to transfer HHO to the 'bota. No problems yet, but i am enjoying the fun.
#2Dsl is now $4.69 at the pump.

 

[LBrown59]

I called my HHO company today. Price now is $3.818 for LSD HHO and $3.975 for ULSD HHO. They said they could get me either one (150 minimum).
I pad $2.975 in December and $3.188 in March.
I am using my minivac now to transfer HHO to the 'bota. No problems yet, but i am enjoying the fun.
#2Dsl is now $4.69 at the pump.

I just got 30 gallon of the red stuff today.
3.70 gal..

 

[Kaliburz]

EPA vs IRS..... both are just as bad. The citizens do not have input on how those two do things to affect our lives.

Our state Ecology Dept has been doing something w/ water rights for OVER 25 years. The case started when I was a KID! Surface water and irrigation, they wanted to set user rights or something. I even testified that we had been farming here since the place was bought and got water from the irrigation district! To make things worse, right when the end was near, when they would finally say this person has this right, they do not, the Federal govt comes in and says the state Ecology Dept has NOT authority to dole out 'rights' on the Indian reservation (or something like that- our PRIVATE property is w/in the border of an indian reservation).

The newest off road diesel engine I have is in a 1982 JD 2240. So this low sulfur for off road being illegal does not concern me on a mechanical affect/dangers.

If they are worried about how much 'sulfer' is shot into the air, then take a look at this. Smudge pot - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

That uses about 5-6 gallons of diesel. You might get 2-3 nights of use, depending on how early or late you light it vs how hot it is set. Gives a nice black hue in the rising sun. That my friends is the reality of Ag. Now if they are truly care about the environment AND ag business in the USA, they would sell 'heating oil' that is exactly the same as low sulfur off road diesel AND charge the same price as heating oil. (I can dream can't I....)

Here, to my knowledge, is not illegal to use 'heating oil' in an off road diesel engine. I have not check to see if there is a price difference, but here, the last I checked, off road was heating oil.

(I don't even want to think how much fuel will be in the fall..... and that stuff will be the road diesel for the semi's....)