I'm puzzled

[BrokeFarmerJohn]

Here in N.H. we have neither an income nor a general sales tax (only on hotel rooms and prepared meals), so a large amount of the state and town/city revenue comes from the property tax (with roughly 70% of it going to schools). The tax man gets you one way or another.

Must be nice not to have sales or income tax. You must pay some incredible property taxes to level out income and sales tax. I know Virginia has a yearly tax on all your stuff, cars, house ext, forget what it's called.

My property taxes are a little over 2k a year, income is 10k+ and sales is tax is 6%

 

[SteveM70]

Must be nice not to have sales or income tax. You must pay some incredible property taxes to level out income and sales tax. I know Virginia has a yearly tax on all your stuff, cars, house ext, forget what it's called.

Personal property tax, we have it!

House, atv's, campers, trailers, tractors etc. Basically your land, home, structures and anything with wheels.

 

[BrokeFarmerJohn]

Personal property tax, we have it!

House, atv's, campers, trailers, tractors etc. Basically your land, home, structures and anything with wheels.

Is that everything titled? Or do they send a tax man out? How do they know all you own?

 

[SteveM70]

Come to think of it, I suppose it's everything titled. To be honest I've spent most of my adult life working and my wife always took care of them things. I'm still learning about it myself lol.

I know I see vehicles driving around that says "county accessors office" on the side so I suppose there out making a judgment on what your place is worth.

 

[k0ua]

Is that everything titled? Or do they send a tax man out? How do they know all you own?

you fill out a form, swear it is true and sign it. If you get caught lying, you will pay...bigtime.

 

[dickfoster]

If I had my way we'd only have only one tax, a flat rate straight percentage personal income tax and end all other taxes period. All forms of income, no exceptions, no write offs etc. etc. etc. As soon as you take it home or put it in your bank, you pay the tax. That way they couldn't hide and obscure how much we're actually paying by chipping away at us the way they do. I would not tax business at all because that's passed along to us when we buy something and we wind up paying it anyway, then they have gall to tax us again with sales tax. I'd rather the businesses keep the money to create jobs then the wages they pay out to the employees as income can be taxed. Just one bite at the apple and no more.

The second key part of the plan is that at the end of the year everyone sits down and they earmark how the tax dollars they paid in are spent themselves i.e. take the checkbook away from the politicians. That also makes it more fair for those who pay in more. They more you pay, the more you have to say. If you pay in nothing then you have nothing to say about how the money from others is spent. I know it's simple, it's so simple in fact that it might just work. At least it has a chance of working better than the insane system we have today. If I want to spend my tax money on things like defence and good roads then that's my business. If you want to waste your's on deadbeats, the *** life of fruit flies or how thick ketchup is, then that's your business. Pretty soon I think we'd find out where the bear craps in the buckwheat and most if not all of the waste would stop dead in it's tracks.

 

[SteveM70]

Yeah, by the time you pay federal and state tax right off the top of a paycheck then here there's a 6% sales tax on all purchases but food. The real estate tax and personal property taxes and so on. It seems like the government takes half your money then a majority of what's left goes to insurance companies.

 

[jk96]

Yeah, by the time you pay federal and state tax right off the top of a paycheck then here there's a 6% sales tax on all purchases but food. The real estate tax and personal property taxes and so on. It seems like the government takes half your money then a majority of what's left goes to insurance companies.

We pay sales tax on food as well here in MO.

 

[dickfoster]

Yeah, by the time you pay federal and state tax right off the top of a paycheck then here there's a 6% sales tax on all purchases but food. The real estate tax and personal property taxes and so on. It seems like the government takes half your money then a majority of what's left goes to insurance companies.

Yep that's how they're conning us.

BTW ever wonder what insurance brings to the party other than waste, cost and corruption? I'll give you one guess as to exactly how health care went into the tank in this country and it had to do with both goverment and insurance.

 

[dickfoster]

We pay sales tax on food as well here in MO.

No stone left unturned. LOL At least here food at the grocery store, not convenience items or restaurant food, and drugs are still sales tax free but they make up for it in other ways.

 

[jk96]

dickfoster I like your plan. Always thought a flat tax or consumption tax made a lot of sense. Unfortunately I think if we went that route it wouldn't take long though for politicians to start carving it up for special interests

 

[dickfoster]

dickfoster I like your plan. Always thought a flat tax or consumption tax made a lot of sense. Unfortunately I think if we went that route it wouldn't take long though for politicians to start carving it up for special interests

That's want part two of the plan is for. I'm taking the checkbook away from the politicians and giving it back to the people who have to cash the checks and you only get to write checks on the money you yourself put in. You know, like how the rest of us have to live. Wouldn't it be nice to have all of those bureaucrats begging for your money and their existence for a change? It simply could not be any more of a democratic concept.

 

[TomSeller]

We pay sales tax on food as well here in MO.

Yikes. You gotta pay tax to eat basic food (not served food)?

 

[jk96]

Yikes. You gotta pay tax to eat basic food (not served food)?

Yep. Tax on grocery items is reduced 3% lower than the standard sales tax but is still taxed nonetheless.

 

[TomSeller]

That is just plain not right

 

[PJSprog]

Same here in Illinois. Our grocery tax rate is 1% for unprepared food, and the regular sales tax rate of 6.25% on prepared food and beverages.

 

[RaydaKub]

Yep. Tax on grocery items is reduced 3% lower than the standard sales tax but is still taxed nonetheless.

Sounds like incentive to grow a garden, a steer, and a hog.

Oops! Let that idea slip out. Here come the tax police....

 

[TomSeller]

There are some who think it is our job is to pay taxes.

 

[BrokeFarmerJohn]

Yikes. You gotta pay tax to eat basic food (not served food)?

Here in Ohio we pay sales tax on food as well, not sure what it is because I have never paid attention to it, it's always been there.

Let's see here, I'm gonna think of a few taxes lol

If you have a job in Ohio you pay income tax, local, state and federal. We pay a yearly fee for driving on the roads (Stickers for license plates), we pay tax on the fuel to drive, we pay a tax on food (fast food to grocery store), if you own a house you have to pay property taxes, if you buy anything that has a title (boat, rv, quad, house, tractor, motorcycle ext. new or used) you pay sales tax, I'm not sure if utilities are taxed or not, again never paid attention to the bill.

So if you have a job and make money, that money can be hit very hard with taxes by the time it ends up on the principle of whatever your buying, income tax is over 30% plus all the other taxes listed above, if someone were to figure all the taxes in I bet it's close to 50% of what we make. That's as much as many socialist nations pay and I don't even get free healthcare lol.

 

[Wagtail]

Australia has a 10% GST (Goods & Services Tax) on practically everything except fresh produce & basic food items. That money goes to Canberra and then gets redistributed to the States by some calculated formula. Whether you buy a car or get a haircut, it doesn't matter, 10%.

Yes there is annual,local, property taxes... mine is a wopping A$1,400.00. No, I didn't drop a zero. That's it for the entire year.

And the State will hit you up for vehicle rego, plus there're hidden costs (sin taxes) in a litre of fuel.

The UV rays down here can be brutal so that's why my tractors live in a 5-bay shed and my ute is under a carport. (just to bring the thread back 'on track'. )