swlman2
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Please tell me , who suggested that this was a hobbyist / farmer forum? U sound like a very knowledgeable person!
Improving your welding?
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I only know of one poster that stated that this was a hobbyist/farmer forum. He has been very adamant that it is. I personally thought it was a forum for folks to share ideas and knowledge and to help others by sharing their knowledge from the backgrounds that they come from so that others may learn.
If it is indeed a true statement that TBN is only a hobbyist/farmer forum (I disagree as there are many folks of many varied professions and fields, look at land clearing equipment, construction equipment, Ag machinery sub forums in TBN) I think that it is an insult and a slap in the face to imply however that just because you are a hobbyist/farmer (not that those are in anyway related as farmers are the professional folks that keep us fed and they are not doing it as a hobby) that you are not interested in learning how to do something the correct way or to improve your skills at whatever task you are doing.
Sorry about the run-on sentence
If it is indeed a true statement that TBN is only a hobbyist/farmer forum (I disagree as there are many folks of many varied professions and fields, look at land clearing equipment, construction equipment, Ag machinery sub forums in TBN) I think that it is an insult and a slap in the face to imply however that just because you are a hobbyist/farmer (not that those are in anyway related as farmers are the professional folks that keep us fed and they are not doing it as a hobby) that you are not interested in learning how to do something the correct way or to improve your skills at whatever task you are doing.
Sorry about the run-on sentence
swlman2
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sorry, i try to catch as much as the forum as i can, I must have missed it some where. FURU u are a well spoken gentlemen! Arc weld, i don't know ya but don't sweat the small stuff! Why are u crying?
firedog
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I thought it was a collective of expertise across all the different areas.
I have and will continue to seek out the more experienced advise for my needs. Not saying I can't learn from others by any means, but if I were seeking marriage counseling I would ask the couple who were married for 50 years, not for 5.
I have and will continue to seek out the more experienced advise for my needs. Not saying I can't learn from others by any means, but if I were seeking marriage counseling I would ask the couple who were married for 50 years, not for 5.
swlman2
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U r right f dog. Everybodies got something to learn no matter how much experience!
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There seems to be a debate going on so I thought I would ask what the members on here think. This will help me decide if I can offer any help or not. Would you prefer advice from experienced professionals who weld(ed) for a living or would you prefer advice from people who are hobbyists with no formal training? Doesn't matter to me one way or the other but since this is member forum, I'd like see what the members prefer.
professional welders for the win Alex.
square1
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Anyone serious about being a better welder should be able to discern between good and not so good advice. Good advice will list specs, facts, and outcomes (both desired & undesired). Not so good advice will have an "Uh Huh" "Un't uh" format. That being said, both serve a purpose in that "Not so good" advice draw out otherwise unspoken good advice.
paulharvey
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I think both types have there place. I personally deal 100% with "repurposed" materials (scrap). It isn't meant for what I use it for, but it's free. It's not clean metal of a know type; it's rusty, bent, ect. So advice from pros is sometimes useful, but often there advice is difficult to apply in the field. I can safely say i had no idea what a 6011 rod was when i first bought a 5# box, and reading posts of actual pros explained a lot.
Also there are different pros. One guy might be a heavy equipment service guy who works 10 miles down a mud logging trail; while another is a production mig welder at an aluminum awning maker.
There is also different types of advice; for example: let's say preheating cast iron: one guy says preheat to 500 degrees for x minutes; another say heat it till you can spit on it and the spit evaporates by the count of 3.... guy 1 might be more right; but guy 2 was more useful in the real world...
If I'm on a road project and I need a grader rigged up to plow out a 3 foot wide, 16" deep box to widen the road, who would you ask, the equipment guy, the pipeline guy, or an aerospace tig guy, or the home owner who welded up a lawn mower deck? I'll take guy 1. Now, I've got a magnesium transfer case with pump rub holes, who do I ask? I'll take the aerospace tig guy. I've got a 8 ft deep mud hole with a 4" steel gas line leaking next to a busy state Road and a interstate ramp (2 weeks ago...).... I'll take the pipe line guy. I've got a street sign post and rebar plow with cut up mower blades as the plow edge; and I want to add on to it; who do I ask; **** if I know; you just read through a jumbled up fight between the 4 pros and the guy who fixed is mower once...
Also there are different pros. One guy might be a heavy equipment service guy who works 10 miles down a mud logging trail; while another is a production mig welder at an aluminum awning maker.
There is also different types of advice; for example: let's say preheating cast iron: one guy says preheat to 500 degrees for x minutes; another say heat it till you can spit on it and the spit evaporates by the count of 3.... guy 1 might be more right; but guy 2 was more useful in the real world...
If I'm on a road project and I need a grader rigged up to plow out a 3 foot wide, 16" deep box to widen the road, who would you ask, the equipment guy, the pipeline guy, or an aerospace tig guy, or the home owner who welded up a lawn mower deck? I'll take guy 1. Now, I've got a magnesium transfer case with pump rub holes, who do I ask? I'll take the aerospace tig guy. I've got a 8 ft deep mud hole with a 4" steel gas line leaking next to a busy state Road and a interstate ramp (2 weeks ago...).... I'll take the pipe line guy. I've got a street sign post and rebar plow with cut up mower blades as the plow edge; and I want to add on to it; who do I ask; **** if I know; you just read through a jumbled up fight between the 4 pros and the guy who fixed is mower once...
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Bottom line as I see it? You learn from everyone. I have great appreciation for guys with gray hair-be they doctors, pilots or welders. and having spent 44+ years in a haz mat industry I can tell you that not all pro's will have the same answer.
As for "hackers" like myself, sometimes if for no other reason you get some encouragement from the non-pro who shares a story here. Hmnn..."I guess I'm not the only dumb one"
I always tell people about this web site and what makes it so great- a collection of so may individuals with varying levels of experience and ability and on a wide range of subjects.
As for "hackers" like myself, sometimes if for no other reason you get some encouragement from the non-pro who shares a story here. Hmnn..."I guess I'm not the only dumb one"
I always tell people about this web site and what makes it so great- a collection of so may individuals with varying levels of experience and ability and on a wide range of subjects.