Wellllllllllllllll, I figured I would try it again before I unhooked everything and started over. I cranked up the tractor and pulled on the 3 point lever to raise the box scrape, [it didnt move] and left it in the up position, mine, I dont know if its right or not, but you have to push it back to neutral. I know if you push the lever all the way to the front, to lower it, it floats. Meanwhile back at the ranch,[lol] I pulled on the up lever for the FEL and it raised, the lower lever worked fine, and also the tilt backwards and forward worked. At the end of the stroke for the tilt or raise,it would pick up the 3 ph. It"s got dark here now, and I dont have the glamor of a nice inside shop, it will have to wait till tomorrow. I will check it out more tomm. zman