Is the B3030 enough tractor for me?

   / Is the B3030 enough tractor for me? #21  
You should ask your dealer or any other dealer if you can demo one and see if it works for you. Keep asking dealers until one lets you demo one they buy from that guy.
 
   / Is the B3030 enough tractor for me? #22  
<font color="blue"> I need to be able to move small units of lumber, in the 750-1000 lb range, and am afraid the B3030 will not be able to handle it. I also need to be able to offload 1000-1800 lb trees </font>
B3030 FEL is rated to pickup 880 lbs. Adding a QA will limit load capacity even more.
To pick up loads up to 1800 lbs you will need to look at a tractor that will accept the LA853 FEL. Those models are the L4330, L4630, L5030.
There are aftermarket QA loader forks for the B3030. One TBNer purchased a ATI QA and Forks. Click Here
Buying one tractor that will cut lawn like your DX24E and lift weights of 1800 lbs may not be possible. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
 
   / Is the B3030 enough tractor for me? #23  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Buying one tractor that will cut lawn like your DX24E and lift weights of 1800 lbs may not be possible. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif )</font>

Yeah, so far, that's been the big issue in me trying to decide what exactly to do. I'm not sure I can convince my wife I need to keep my little Case and buy a new bigger machine. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
   / Is the B3030 enough tractor for me? #24  
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B3030 FEL is rated to pickup 880 lbs. Adding a QA will limit load capacity even more.
To pick up loads up to 1800 lbs you will need to look at a tractor that will accept the LA853 FEL. Those models are the L4330, L4630, L5030.
There are aftermarket QA loader forks for the B3030. One TBNer purchased a ATI QA and Forks. Click Here
Buying one tractor that will cut lawn like your DX24E and lift weights of 1800 lbs may not be possible. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif )</font>

Im with ya on that score. I "attempted" ( notice I said attempted..lol) to lift a downed tree that best I can estimate weights 1000 lbs. Ive got close to 350 lbs of ballest on the back. This was going to be sort of a test to see what the FEL would pickup..and the welded on chain hooks...etc. I chained to it in what looked like the "balance point"...and when I tried to lift it...the back of the tractor came off the ground!


1800 lb load?? I wouldnt even bother to pull up to it to try it!
 
   / Is the B3030 enough tractor for me? #25  
Have you looked at the Case DX33? It's a couple hundred pounds heavier and stronger than the 3030. Also Mahindra makes a big issue of their weight and hydraulic strength in a physically small package.

Kubotas tend to be lightweight powerhouses for their footprint size. I think the hydraulics are somewhat structured to keep you from getting into trouble too quickly with the lighter tractor. Maybe you need a brand designed with weight and lifting as a higher priority.
 
   / Is the B3030 enough tractor for me? #26  
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Yeah, so far, that's been the big issue in me trying to decide what exactly to do. I'm not sure I can convince my wife I need to keep my little Case and buy a new bigger machine. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif )</font>

Dont know if you require a NEW tractor or not...but to help on the pain in the wallet..you might want to look for that second tractor on the used market..?? And pick up something that can EASILY handle 1800 lbs loads. Since that type of work isnt your usual...your mainstay procedure...a tractor with a FEL thats got some hrs on it should do fine..?? With the added "advantage" that used BIG ( big being relative) are easier to find normally than used "CUT's or Sub CUT's ..Just a thought!
 
   / Is the B3030 enough tractor for me? #27  
I guess this B3030 vs. L3400 is a common decision. I too thought through this last Saturday when I found out that both would be about the same in price.

At one point I thought that I wanted one machine that could do everything I needed it to:
- Bit of FEL work - move this there and that here.
- 5' rotary cutter.
- Finish mowing an acre or two with a MMM.
- Take care of drive way
- etc.

I liked the creature comforts the B3030 added compard to the L3400.

Eventually I decided that I'd be better off splitting the finish mowing work off and buying a smaller used riding mower for it (once I figured out what a new MMM costs!). Once I came to this conclusion, manuverability was not an issue for me and neither was the mid PTO. Bigger was just better for all kinds of reasons - more PTO hp, weight, creature comforts I cared about could be compensated for with the addition of a QH.

I also justified to myself that resale value of a 35 hp heavier tractor would be higher in 15 years than a 30 hp lighter tractor with a few extra creature comforts even though they cost the same now. I really have no clue whether this logic will hold up or not.

Pretty hard to go wrong with either tractor I would think. If the manuverability continued to be an issue for me I might have gone with the B3030. I've got wide open spaces for the most part and so I think I will be fine with my choice.

Good luck.
 
   / Is the B3030 enough tractor for me? #28  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( anticipated uses: plowing Western New York snow with a 5-foot back blade and a FEL; 500-foot gravel driveway )</font>

I have to add my 2 cents here. Western NY gets a lot of snow, don't expect the B3030 to simply push or pull that amount of snow off your drive. Even with chains, you might spin those tires all day long in wet and heavy snow.
 
   / Is the B3030 enough tractor for me?
  • Thread Starter
#29  
Well, I went and did it after years of pondering and reading TBN.
I chose the B3030 over the L3400. Liked the added features and the maneuverability. For my uses, the HP seemed enough. We'll see about weight and traction once I get some experience on it in my "real world" woods and trails (as opposed to the dealer's parking lot).
Delivery next week, I hope.
Thanks for all the useful advice. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
   / Is the B3030 enough tractor for me? #30  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Have you looked at the Case DX33? It's a couple hundred pounds heavier and stronger than the 3030. Also Mahindra makes a big issue of their weight and hydraulic strength in a physically small package.)</font>

There was a time when I was very seriously eyeing the DX29 and DX33. But after using my little Case alongside a Kubota BX22 over the last year and a half, I've decided that I don't want another CNH product in my garage, and should probably go for a Kubota, or possibly a JD this time around. Both of those companies have gone through significantly less "corporate restructuring" over the last decade, and seem to have been able to better focus on design, development, and construction of their product lines.

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Kubotas tend to be lightweight powerhouses for their footprint size. I think the hydraulics are somewhat structured to keep you from getting into trouble too quickly with the lighter tractor. Maybe you need a brand designed with weight and lifting as a higher priority. )</font>

Which is why I've been looking at the Grand L's lately. And from what I've seen, Kubota's pricing these days is just as good, if not better, than any of the major competitors. No offense to owners of the Chinese tractors, but I'm not ready to take that leap yet. I'm not sure I'm even ready to look at Kioti just yet, though I hear mostly good things, and there is a machine that would probably suit me fine - it's just that out here, the Kioti pricing is no better than the Kubota, JD, or CNH pricing.
 

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