Is the Cyber Truck a Flop?

   / Is the Cyber Truck a Flop? #861  
Same with GMAC.
Financing vehicles to people who can't afford them is very lucrative.

Patrick
 
   / Is the Cyber Truck a Flop? #862  
Yup. Interest over 48-72 months and loan closing costs is far better than the average profit margin on a sale.

Extended warranties also work out to around 20% going to expenses and 80% going to commissions.
 
   / Is the Cyber Truck a Flop? #863  
I saw one at the local dump today. They look even worse up close. I was wondering if he was going to leave the piece o crap at the dump…..but he didnt. I thought it would be a fitting end.
 
   / Is the Cyber Truck a Flop? #864  
I wouldn't trust Futurism as a source. They truly hate Elon, and take it out on Tesla's products.
It's almost impossible to know which news source to trust not being motivated by political biased or profit.
I would like to find a source that just gave facts.
Let people decide, not try to program them. That's the problem with AI. It may be manipulated.
Trust no one, that's sad!
 
   / Is the Cyber Truck a Flop? #865  
   / Is the Cyber Truck a Flop? #867  
I would like to find a source that just gave facts.
I find that the BBC is still somewhat fact based... For domestic news, I read two different sides of the coin and figure the actual story is halfway in between.
 
   / Is the Cyber Truck a Flop? #869  
Well, failure or not, the CT is a technological tour-de-force.

I just found out that the CT's low voltage system (the one that runs the lights, window motors, radio, etc.) is 48V, and uses a tiny 4Ah lithium battery. It may be the only EV with a 48V aux. system.

Note that other EVs and hybrids have a 12V low voltage system, and conventional auxiliary components. Most EVs and hybrids today even use a separate 12V lead-acid battery. Some, since about 2021, have gone to a lithium 12V battery, while non-CT Teslas have gone to a 16V li-ion.

My own '21 Hyundai HEV uses a lithium 12V battery that is inside the main battery casing, and separately replaceable. It is cooled by the main air cooling system and covered by the 10y warranty.
 
   / Is the Cyber Truck a Flop? #870  
Just wait until anything electrical breaks on the 48 volt system and replacement parts are only available through Tesla. The 48 volt system you seem to be so impressed with is simply another evolution in the automobile which was being seriously debated at least as far back as the early 1990s, so more than 30 years ago and before Tesla even existed. It’s interesting to see the predictions about it in this 2001 trade magazine article: 42-Volt Electrical Systems Are (Not Quite) Here! | MOTOR

Steer by wire (a deal breaker for me) has been around to control some vehicles rear wheel steering for a while now, like GMs quadrasteer circa 2002.

Kudos to Tesla for pushing the envelope and trying different things. Going all in with the industrial kitchen dumpster body with no backup plan for a more traditional and more functional body, which appears to be the case, is a failure imo. I like the idea of a corrosion resistant stainless steel body, but if the rest of the chassis isn’t as corrosion resistant then that is another failure as well.

Was the CT another example of group think or were the underlings too afraid to speak up or was it some combination of both?

BTW I know nothing about the CT’s electrical demands, but 4ah sounds way low for an automotive battery. Granted there is not likely an extreme demand, like a starter motor trying to turn over a cold ICE engine with oil thicker than #6 fuel oil, but depending upon what is powered by that battery it still sounds like the capacity is on the low side.
 

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