It let me down for the last time.......

[glastron23]

Hi Guy's .. was at a workshop for body builders/truck modifiers and one thing they were talking about is the new 6.2 and the 6.7 diesel, they are to be released as job 1 . the 6.2 looks impressive and being a modular should prove to be strong.... now for the 6.7 !!!! seems that Ford teamed up with Peugeot to build this motor. i hope they have this one right??? as the last ones left a lot on the table... and this comes from someone who has blue oval underwear???? TMI ?? LOL i guess that time will tell as everything now is a crap shoot ..Jim

 

[glastron23]

By the way the code name for the 6.7 is the "Scorpion" http://www.autoblog.com/2009/08/31/beware-the-scorpion-2011-ford-super-duty-gets-all-new-6-7-liter/

 

[killdozerd11]

we USED to have a V10. it only got 5... was terrible,

traded it off for a 76 GMC, 2-ton, much better truck, and it gets around 10

My best friend bought a dodge truck with a V-10 and it would pass anything but a gas station

 

[mjncad]

My best friend bought a dodge truck with a V-10 and it would pass anything but a gas station

Out of curiosity, what kind of mileage did Dodge V-10 owners get? I've never met a Dodge V-10 owner with any long term experience with the engine. I have a hunch that poor mileage killed that engine more than anything else.

 

[killdozerd11]

Out of curiosity, what kind of mileage did Dodge V-10 owners get? I've never met a Dodge V-10 owner with any long term experience with the engine. I have a hunch that poor mileage killed that engine more than anything else.

Oh yes it did for him
more like 10gal to the mile
But the dealership had modified the truck put on Headers, Power chiped it etc
But while towing his trailer back from the river the spare tire caught fire from the heat of the exhaust pipes

It was a real hot truck alright

 

[JoelD]

This was blown way out of proportion. It was only on the first few model years of the trucks then fixed with new heads.

Chris

Which model years where problem and which year did they become ok? I've been looking at expeditions and the like but when I googled I saw many sparkplug spitting complaints

Joel

 

[Diamondpilot]

Which model years where problem and which year did they become ok? I've been looking at expeditions and the like but when I googled I saw many sparkplug spitting complaints

Joel

I would not worry about any 2002 or later but the 3 valve 2005 and later are the sure bet.

Chris

 

[Heywood Jannockitov]

Out of curiosity, what kind of mileage did Dodge V-10 owners get? I've never met a Dodge V-10 owner with any long term experience with the engine. I have a hunch that poor mileage killed that engine more than anything else.

For comparison, one of my buddies had a 1996 Ram 2500 4x4, V10, auto. I still have my 1995 Ram 2500 4x4, 5.9 Cummins, 5 spd. 3:54:1

Both have identical 136 litre fuel tanks.
My range is about 900 km per tank with a fill-up typically taking about 120 litres when showing empty.
His range between fill-ups was about 450 km if he was lucky.
He bought it used with real low mileage, no wonder!

 

[joes_427_vette]

That is about par for Ford. Engine is No. 1 on the list of improvements and then turn it over to Pouejoe ( or who ever is that french man ). Their fuel management system didn't work well with Navistars package.
They have a great following and I'm sure the brand loyalists will wait in line.
For my 2 cents the Cummins is the best package followed closely by the Duramax. Chrysler will eventially drop this manufacturer in favor of in house Fiat diesels as part of the cost cutting measures. For someone to drop 50k on a private use light duty truck without business write offs........ well it doesn't make much sense. Yet you see them everyday. It proves the economy is still in great working order.

 

[KeithInSpace]

Which model years where problem and which year did they become ok? I've been looking at expeditions and the like but when I googled I saw many sparkplug spitting complaints

I have a 2005 Expedition and it has been a wonderful truck. With 300 hp, it performs quite well. The IRS is very comfortable. I do what I consider to be a fair amount of towing, especially in the summer months, and the truck performs admireably.

I have 75,000 miles and haven't had many problems. I'm about to replace the 45k mile old tires with new rims/tires and giving the truck a 'second wind' with new ball joints, belts, plugs, etc. There has been very minor wear on the driver's side leather and the steering wheel has shown some wear. Other than that, the truck is brand new.

I did have an extended warranty service of the 4WD system...the switch from 2WD to 4WD became 'reluctant'. But all in all, it has absolutely blown away my expectations of any truck.

I normally get 14 to 15 MPG in pure city driving, 18 to 20 MPG on the interstate, and a solid 11 MPG when towing my 5,000# bumperpull travel trailer. A diesel would always be nice, but the 300 hp 3-valve engine is very, very nice. I mirror Chris' suggestion and restrict your searches to that engine, up from the 2004's 260 hp. My parents have an earlier Expedition (240 hp and solid rear axle) and it is much less pleasant. Absolutely no comparison to the 2005 and later trucks.

Ultimately, mine will be replaced with a larger P/U, probably diesel, simply to accomodate a small (under 30') 5th wheel...the next logical step in our outdoor life with the kids.

But unlike other cars I've owned, I don't look forward to replacing the Expedition. It's been great!