JD 5045E Quick Attach drawing?

[Vanwill]

Hello, new to this forum. I'm a homeowner with less than 10 acres. I recently purchased a new JD 5045E with 553 loader and want to get an "Extreme Stump Bucket" and "Extreme Pallet Forks" from North American Implements in Denton, NC. I live just over an hour from their location, so I will pick up the implements. I have read several recommendations for this company (Formerly Markham Welding) and for the contact "Stella". My question is this--I want the implements to be made to fit directly on the OEM JD quick-attach system on the tractor, WITHOUT an adapter for the skid-steer platform. I understand many implement makers will do this for you, but most seem to be familiar with the JD dimensions needed. Stella asked me to send her dimensions of the mount required. I have no problem with making a detailed drawing, but wondered if there is not already a JD publication with those dimensions.

Does anyone have any hesitation about buying an implement this way? I won't be able to see if it actually fits my tractor until I get home.

Van
Eastern NC

 

[hosspuller]

Careful... Don't expect your "stump bucket" to work like a backhoe. The loader is really made to dig into loose piles. Prying on a stump is almost a sure way to bend your loader. A skid steer is much stronger than your tractor loader. I bought a JD 310C backhoe after the JDtractor/ 540 loader. The 310C is easily 3x the power of the tractor loader

 

[Vanwill]

Hosspuller, thanks for the reply. Yes, my dealer warned me about over-stressing the 553 loader, but offered several "stump buckets" to choose from. My stumps are uniformly small, seldom exceeding 6" diameter. I have paid a backhoe operator several times, and will do so again if necessary. Purchasing a backhoe or skid steer in addition to the tractor is out of the question for me.

I went to the dealer today and asked about an existing drawing from JD to make this process simpler. Got the "deer in the headlights" look. I can make the drawing myself, but I'm sure I'm doing something unnecessary. I would be surprised to find that the huge number of implement manufacturers all had to develop their own set of dimensions.

Van
Eastern NC

 

[adirondackmtnman]

I would think that a reputable manufacturer would have, as part of their manufacturing practices, all the measurements from all the major quick attach methods...JDQA may not be as popular as SSQA, but if they've made any significant production at all, the Deere QA should be pretty common for them. If they need the dimensions, I would begin to question the rest of their practices. Just my $0.02.

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[Notforhire]

If I'm thinking of the same place, Wildkat Attachments, they generally build attachments just for SSQA. I'm not saying that they couldn't make you a JD set up, but I also understand why they don't have the pattern.

Could you load your FEL bucket on a truck, bring it to them, and let them take their own measurements?

I have a set of their forks and their stump bucket. While the bucket did work best on my bobcat, I have used it on my 553 loader for trenches, bushes and small trees. If you keep in mind the intended use of a Ag. loader, you should be OK.

(I bought my 553 loader with a SSQA instead of the JD system because I already owned several SSQA attachments.)

Good luck, Bill

 

[Vanwill]

Bill, Thanks. I have more than enough equipment, materials, and fabrication experience to build my own implements, but just have many more things I'd rather be doing. No, it is not Wildkat Attachments. If I had known more about tractors, I would have ordered mine with the SSQA system, but was not really aware of how much more common that system was. There is a JD accessory (WB15626, I think) that will replace my JDQA casting on the tractor and convert it to SSQA, but it is $750 and then I would have to convert my existing bucket (my only implement) to SSQA by welding on an adapter plate. Not out of the question, but I only envision ever needing two other attachments--pallet forks and stump bucket. Pallet forks are fairly common in JDQA, but the kind of stump bucket I want I have not located in JDQA. I want the very long style with rounded bottom. I prefer not to have an adaptor on the JD to convert it to SSQA.

I think I probably just need to locate the stump bucket from someone familiar with the JDQA. I'm a homeowner, and based on my last three years experience with my old MF 240, I'm not likely to put more than 100 hours per year on the machine. I did order the JD 5045E with 16.9 x 28 tires to get more traction. The big tires, coupled with 4WD have made it MUCH greater at pulling than my old MF 240.

 

[Notforhire]

I want the very long style with rounded bottom.

Just something to keep in mind;
Deep buckets, (cutting edge to rear of bucket) are really designed for Skid Steers, that have much more curl, and break out force than your tractor does. Buckets for Ag. loaders are generally short.

If your machine is REALLY new, would you think that your JD dealer may take your existing bucket back? An aftermarket bucket (I have a Woods) I believe is less expensive than your JD unit. This may offset some of the cost of converting to SSQA.

The only reason I mention this is, I never dreamed I'd want anything other than a bucket and a set of forks. I now have a rock bucket, stump bucket, hay spear, and a 3 point hitch adapter. With the three point adapter, I can attach to my FEL my boom pole, (which I use to set trusses), my carryall (lift platform), and my York rake (cleaning ditch banks, streams, and the perimeter of my pond). You may find that you want to borrow, or rent something in the future that is SSQA.
Just something to ponder.

Best, Bill

 

[Vanwill]

Bill, correct me if I'm wrong, but it surely seems like the longer length and curved bottom on a stump bucket would be considerably easier on the loader--just gives it a lot more leverage, and keeps the fulcrum closer to the stump. I suspect that is why those buckets are becoming popular, whether they are used on a SS or a tractor.

 

[Notforhire]

Bill, correct me if I'm wrong, but it surely seems like the longer length and curved bottom on a stump bucket would be considerably easier on the loader--just gives it a lot more leverage, and keeps the fulcrum closer to the stump. I suspect that is why those buckets are becoming popular, whether they are used on a SS or a tractor.

I can't speak to the curved bottom. That's above my pay grade.

As far as the depth of the bucket goes, the farther away from the pins you go the less lift, and curl you have.

I imagine if you could drive the bucket into the ground and use it like a pry bar, the increased length would help you. If you are depending on the loader hydraulics to lift and curl, which is normally the case, a shorter bucket would be better.

From my experience, the reason for the popularity of deep buckets on Bobcats is so you can see the cutting edge from operators seat. Generally when the bucket gets deeper, it gets reduced in height, keeping the capacity about the same.(Low profile) As you move the load away from the pins the lift capacity is still reduced, you just can get away with it more on a skid steer, because they are more powerful loaders to begin with.

If you see a low profile bucket on a tractor, it's most likely someone like me that had, or has a Bobcat, and just uses them anyway, or has picked one up used.

That's my take, for what it's worth.:2cents:

Best, Bill