yea no ****!
Jerky LSeries 3pt Hitch Fixed
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yea no ****!
Texas Fella
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Safety issue????? Yea, I would never let my kids get under one of those "jerky" 3 points. Seriously, why does everyone think what ever is wrong with their tractor is a safety issue. I repeat, there have been 10's of 1,000 of these tractors sold, why is it good enough for so many people if it is so "un-acceptable"?
I very strongly disagree. I bought my L3400 HST brand new in 2005. I shopped and read a ton of literature on blue, green and orange tractors. This was my first tractor purchase but I have been around tractors and used them before. I chose the L3400 based on reputation and the appearance of a quality tractor. I could have afforded a Grand L but I could care less about a tilt wheel or the digital dash. I decided the L3400 met all of my needs. Economy tractor does not mean it does NOT WORK correctly or safely. It never occured to me that the three point was virtually unusable. My first use was digging post holes. I could not remove the dirt from the hole. I was lucky and got a hold of a rep from Kubota and they replaced my valve. Huge improvement and the way it should have been delivered. It burns me up when someone says that it is an economy tractor and you should not expect it to work properly. Brian
Rhino421
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Texas Fella, I will admit that I have limited experience with tractors borrowed in the past but a smooth 3 point I always thought was " the standard".. :confused2:I am in a position that borrowing is no longer the best option except implements
. I have access to 6 foot tiller, brush hog, etc but need the pto power to run. I also wanted something with a smaller footprint to use around the house and easier to tow with a 1/2 ton. I looked at the b series and don't want 1/4 inching and the b3030 won't work with the above implements I have been told. The smaller L series seemed to be the answer not because it is "an economy" model but power size fills a nitch.. I don't want or need the Grand L size or extra features. This will be a long term investment and usage will change as will the implements needed now and in the future thus a smooth 3 point required. I focused on Kubota due to friends positive feedback but not even having an option for a jerk free 3 point in the size and power I want is making me look to other brands. FYI, the TYM I tried was even worse than the L3800.. If Kubota would address the 3pt even if it means more cost I would be done with my tractor shopping.
. I have access to 6 foot tiller, brush hog, etc but need the pto power to run. I also wanted something with a smaller footprint to use around the house and easier to tow with a 1/2 ton. I looked at the b series and don't want 1/4 inching and the b3030 won't work with the above implements I have been told. The smaller L series seemed to be the answer not because it is "an economy" model but power size fills a nitch.. I don't want or need the Grand L size or extra features. This will be a long term investment and usage will change as will the implements needed now and in the future thus a smooth 3 point required. I focused on Kubota due to friends positive feedback but not even having an option for a jerk free 3 point in the size and power I want is making me look to other brands. FYI, the TYM I tried was even worse than the L3800.. If Kubota would address the 3pt even if it means more cost I would be done with my tractor shopping.Harvest Moon
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I don't need or want a Grand L, and it's not about the money or the up sell.
For me, the L3400 is the perfect tractor - with a smooth 3pt anyway. Now that it appears possible, I just need to get one. I've upgraded once, at my expense, and I'll do it again.
Kubota offers a draft control upgrade for the L Series and originally it included an upgraded valve. At least until the upgraded valve became standard because as Kubota realized, and as Teg nailed it - the original was "sub standard." Too bad the upgraded valve wasn't smooth like jokergerm's, this discussion would be over. It's not to insane or unreasonable to ask for a "smooth valve" upgrade, it's long over due.
Lately, it seems the sub standard hitches are back. We need to figure out what magic happened in jokergerm's tractor and expose the upgrade/adjustment option to people that want it.
For me, the L3400 is the perfect tractor - with a smooth 3pt anyway. Now that it appears possible, I just need to get one. I've upgraded once, at my expense, and I'll do it again.
Kubota offers a draft control upgrade for the L Series and originally it included an upgraded valve. At least until the upgraded valve became standard because as Kubota realized, and as Teg nailed it - the original was "sub standard." Too bad the upgraded valve wasn't smooth like jokergerm's, this discussion would be over. It's not to insane or unreasonable to ask for a "smooth valve" upgrade, it's long over due.
Lately, it seems the sub standard hitches are back. We need to figure out what magic happened in jokergerm's tractor and expose the upgrade/adjustment option to people that want it.
That is a VERY good question!!! My guess is that not all are like the jerky ones and since this is an "economy" line... I would believe that some of these "cheaper" valves are worst than others. One of the dealers on TBN said he has not seen a jerky one. This smooth one is said to be "a properly adjusted L3800 valve" (same darn one
)So yea, bottom line, try out the 3ph with a box blade and raise it slowly. If the dealer will not do that for you... I would suggest shopping other colors. :2cents:
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Did you ask them for the exact part-number of this valve ?
Did you ask them what's entailed (the procedure) in having the valve "adjusted properly" ?
Me, I'd want the exact part number (to see if it indicated a revision) ...... and at least a look at (if not a copy of) the procedure used to adjust it.
Who's the dealer that performed the work, and in what city/state are they located ?
Hmmm ....
Not to put to fine a point on it, but it would probably be a lot "hotter" topic, if you could provide some info that would actually be useful for others to achieve the same result.
Say, something like the actual p/n's and procedure used ...
There was one thing I found very interesting at the end of your video, in light of your thread and the totality of your comments in regards to this matter:
"..... but I'm sure even this auger being six feet out is waaay smoother than any other L3800 hitch out there ......"
Really ?
Why ?
johnrex62
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I don't care if I have the best 3 point valve or not. I would like to be able to use any 3pt attachment available for my class tractor however. Many units have been sold, but how many of those are sold to operations with multiple tractors and can use different equipment once in a while to manage a task the economy tractor cannot, and how many are first time buyers that are not aware of the problem and wrongly assume that all tractors are like this and say nothing?
Glad I don't have you designing things for my home. It would piss me off greatly when I call to tell you the ceiling fan blade brackets broke and the blades are embedding in my wife and hear you say "Sorry, most of them don't do that, should have bought a more expensive fan." Or when I call to say my brakes are only working well enough to slow my car down and you tell me if I had spent a little more money and a truck the brakes would work fine.
Tilt Steering is a luxury item. Would you consider your 3pt to be an optional luxury item on your tractor? Would you consider buying a tractor without hydraulics to get a better price? None of us would either. We don't want the bells and whistles of a Rolls Royce, we just want the basic functionality of the Yugo to work properly.
A basic functional part of a piece of equipment should always work properly. You can cut corners on lift capacity or range, on extra features like top n tilt or extendable arms, but the functional use of something as essential as the 3pt valve is too much cutting.
When you bought your car, did you measure the braking pressure at all four wheels before signing, or did you assume they would work properly? Did you measure the thickness of the windshield at multiple locations to ensure it was made properly, or did you accept on faith that it would pass inspection and keep the bugs out of your teeth? How about that hood catch? Did you test it to ensure it would keep the hood down at highway speed, or do you just trust it will?
How much testing of basic and essential components do you do when you buy something?
Did you ask them for the exact part-number of this valve ?
Did you ask them what's entailed (the procedure) in having the valve "adjusted properly" ?
Me, I'd want the exact part number (to see if it indicated a revision) ...... and at least a look at (if not a copy of) the procedure used to adjust it.
Who's the dealer that performed the work, and in what city/state are they located ?
Hmmm ....
Not to put to fine a point on it, but it would probably be a lot "hotter" topic, if you could provide some info that would actually be useful for others to achieve the same result.
Say, something like the actual p/n's and procedure used ...
There was one thing I found very interesting at the end of your video, in light of your thread and the totality of your comments in regards to this matter:
"..... but I'm sure even this auger being six feet out is waaay smoother than any other L3800 hitch out there ......"
Really ?
Why ?
^ well based on everything that i have seen and read, they are all jerky.
So now your trying to pick my comentary apart just to find something to ***** at
wow
unfinished
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I think all he's saying is there is still not enough to go on. Too much disinformation and misinformation by the dealers and reps. You could make him happy by disassembling your tractor and getting the part number off your valve.
Funny how some people who don't own or operate an L-series (from their profiles) keep chiming in. All I can say try running something besides a mower on the hitch for an afternoon and report back.
Funny how some people who don't own or operate an L-series (from their profiles) keep chiming in. All I can say try running something besides a mower on the hitch for an afternoon and report back.
