john deere 410 backhoe barely moves forward but moves in reverse ok

   / john deere 410 backhoe barely moves forward but moves in reverse ok #21  
It appears you found your reverser's problem.
 
   / john deere 410 backhoe barely moves forward but moves in reverse ok
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#22  
My forward clutch drum outer shaft is worn down some because the snap ring broke for whatever reason and the clutch pads are no good so I have to get new clutch pads and plates and I’m going to see if I can get my drum welded back up and machine down to the right size again and I was just wondering if anyone would know how far down the shaft the snap ring grove is supposed to be because it’s wore off and I’m not quite sure of the measurements from the end of the shaft to wear the grove is supposed to be. Does anyone happen to know?
Thanks, Jack
PS: The drum is a R39113 or SUB for that is a RE61163
Drum.jpg Drum R39113 or RE61163.jpg
 
   / john deere 410 backhoe barely moves forward but moves in reverse ok #23  
I looked on JD parts and spec's weren't listed for the drum. Have you considered getting a drum from salvage yard?
 
   / john deere 410 backhoe barely moves forward but moves in reverse ok #24  
I have a 410 with similar issues. No reverse. What thread are the test ports on the control valve. Getting ready to test pressures this weekend and the hoe is not nearby.

Also, when you split that beast, did you raise the loader and just slide the front end out underneath? Looks like loader and frame would stay with the cab.

Any insight you have would be greatly appreciated.

Chuck
 
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#25  
Hi Guys I'm back with another question,
I'm ready to put my backhoe back together now but I'm not sure where # 17 spring come from because it was in the bottom of the transmission.
The end of the shaft # 13 the corner of the plate was broke off at the end so I welded it back on and it has a couple groves in it so I think it clips in there but not sure if it clips on top where I have marked #1 or under neath where I have marked #2' Could anyone tell me where this spring goes for sure.
Thanks

PS: I tried the spring on top and it did not look right so I put the spring under neath to try it and it blocks the square slot where the shifter come down threw so I知 not sure.

Transmission Gear Shifter.jpg
 
   / john deere 410 backhoe barely moves forward but moves in reverse ok #26  
Spring(parts key 17) goes on shifter plate & IIRC it attaches on the top of plate.
 
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#27  
Hi Jim
Thanks for replying so quick and your saying IIRC what is that something else the spring attaches to or it just attaches to the plate from one side to the other in the groves on top.
Thanks again
 
   / john deere 410 backhoe barely moves forward but moves in reverse ok #28  
IIRC=if I remember correctly
 
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#29  
O ok
I tried it under neath but it didn't look right so it's on top now and I hope that is where it goes thanks
 
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#30  
OK I’m back again and getting frustrated with this’ I still have the same problem as I had before still won’t move in forward.
Well I fixed the Drum put new seals’ clutch disk’ clutch plates and fixed the gear shifter’ Pulled the sump screen out and cleaned it and put 2 new hydraulic filters on . I took the reverser clutch control valve assembly apart and cleaned everything and no sticky vales in there so I put it back together with new seals. I put everything back together and filled with new fluid. I fired it up today and tried it in reverse and it moved but still won’t move in forward. I put the gauge back on the test ports # 29 and 31 and it looks like it only test about 100 psi. Any other suggestion what it could be? Thanks in advance
 

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