Just arrived and hour meter is broken

   / Just arrived and hour meter is broken
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#51  
Last time I checked, used equipment is ALWAYS sold as is. I also take it you didn't bother to go look at it and inspect it prior to buying it which is something I ALWAYS Do.

Drove 600 miles to inspect and buy my last Kubota.

Like I said previously, do a COMPLETE service on it, everything, fluids, filters, coolant, everything and carry on.

Far as being honest and truthful with you, you really have no recourse other than getting your panties in a wad and that is about it.

I don't answer my cell phone on Sunday either btw.
It was Saturday.

As for the time it takes driving to inspect it, I work. That is why I bought it from a kubota dealer.
 
   / Just arrived and hour meter is broken
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#52  
Agreed. I dont think there is intentional fraud. Dealer takes used tractor in trade, washes it, and posts it for sale. They don't typically do anything beyond that. They probably had the original owner sign a paper saying hours where accurate (assuming this wasn't an auction), but a dealer doesn't typically do much beyond wash and post.

For the OP; I would look at filters and see if any have hours marked on them. I agree that $30k is a lot of money to not get what you expected. If the 1500 hrs is accurate, the tires should have pretty moderate but noticeable wear, but this almost entire depends on the surface it was used on. If it came with a manual or anything, the previous owner may have made notes in that. If you can find concrete proof that it has 4k hours, (or anything more than about 500hours more then advertised); I would want to discuss what they are going to do to make you whole (but I don't know whether they have a legal obligation, if they didn't know).
There's one original front tire that is bald. The other 3 are newer. I'll look at filters. Nothing in the manual. I do know it was a kubota service techs tractor. But judging by the random wires he installed and shoddy electrical work, Im guessing he wasn't that good of a tech.
 
   / Just arrived and hour meter is broken
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#53  
I could easily see where this machine was traded, whatever 'once over' they did for check of function didn't set off any alarms and they recorded the hour meter and hoped off.
Weather this is their story or not, it's certainly well within reason to envision this exact scenario happening.
Besides the inoperable hr meter, are there other problems or reasons to believe that it's got higher hours? I can understand that it's easy to let your imagination run right away to the worst conclusion. This is also easy to imagine that the guy that traded it was aware and intentionally didn't inform the dealership.
Heck it sounds like it took you 2 hours to notice this. The dealer himself may not have even sat in the seat and the few moves around the dealership (wash, oil change? air in the tires, etc) may have been done by different employees.
I sympathize with the situation but I wouldn't hold my breath for a warm fuzzy feeling. Fix this and move on unless the dealer can find you some service records where the hours are noted.
It took about an hour because I was moving some dirt I needed moved. Then I noticed it so I turned the pto on and kept going incase it was linked. I checked again and it wasn't working. I watched it closely and saw the 1/10hour number very slight jumping like the gears weren't engaging or had lost there mesh.


The front left tire is bald. The front right is new, same model, with 2inches of rib. The thing that stands out to me the dealer neglected to inform me about was that the entire steering column is loose as is the steering wheel bushings. The column shift lever also is sloppy and hard to get into F or R with how much everything around it moves.

Hour wise, I expect a 1500 machine to be much tighter, as I think most of us would. I wouldn't be surprised if this tractor had 6000+ hours.
 
   / Just arrived and hour meter is broken
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#54  
May have is the key word. May have or might doesn’t go anywhere in court. Does anybody have proof that the hour meter didn’t stop working on the transport to the OP? It could in theory be correct besides the 2 hours the op used it.
I looked at the video of the guy driving to show it's it's shifting ability. As he swung the camera around, I saw the tach was not registering the engine RPM. I didn't see it as the time, but frame by frame you could see it. They knew it was disconnected or broken. Not something that happened in transport.
 
   / Just arrived and hour meter is broken #55  
Buying used sight unseen is a gamble. When gambling sometimes you lose sometimes you win.

My only advise is when you call the dealer just tell him your concerns and see what he will do. If you start off with accusations of hour meter fraud I don't think you get a good result.
 
   / Just arrived and hour meter is broken #56  
It was Saturday.

As for the time it takes driving to inspect it, I work. That is why I bought it from a kubota dealer.

You bought a tractor that’s old enough to have a drivers license. Buying used from a dealer really doesn’t mean squat. You should have inspected it yourself or at the minimum paid some to go do it.
 
   / Just arrived and hour meter is broken
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#57  
You bought a tractor that’s old enough to have a drivers license. Buying used from a dealer really doesn’t mean squat. You should have inspected it yourself or at the minimum paid some to go do it.
They're a kubota dealer.
 
   / Just arrived and hour meter is broken
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#58  
Buying used sight unseen is a gamble. When gambling sometimes you lose sometimes you win.

My only advise is when you call the dealer just tell him your concerns and see what he will do. If you start off with accusations of hour meter fraud I don't think you get a good result.
Didn't plan on coming in hot. I'd rather this be solved peacefully and amicablely.

Buying used golf clubs or a fridge sight unseen is a gamble. Buying a kubota from a kubota dealer shouldn't be.
 
   / Just arrived and hour meter is broken #59  
The one original front tire (if it's truly orginal) that is nearly wrong out, could be a sign that is has more than 1500 hours, but it could have been a road mowing machine, and that would be perfectly in-line with the hours. The backs and other front being newer, surely they didn't wear the backs out in 1500 hours, but probably they were damaged? I would 'think' the rears would last 2500-3000 hours with 'normal' use.
 
   / Just arrived and hour meter is broken #60  
They're a kubota dealer.

They probably took that on trade a few days or weeks ago and didn’t do a test anymore involved than driving in a few circles. Why would buying from a dealer guarantee a better product?
 

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