Just can't get a good basic truck, like the old days!

[paulsharvey]

For the cab and chassis side of things; a "medium" duty, cab and chassis, for $67,400. Nope, thats not cheap, but there are Ford Rangers going for the same price.

 

[paulsharvey]

North Carolina, here's a new, 2024, CV 4x4, dump body, for $89k. This specific one is GVW of 23k. I believe you can configure them up to a GVW of 33k.

Although, strictly as a dump truck; its got a high curb weight, a low GVWR, and a pretty limited payload; of about 3 tons

Edit: it doesn't look like it can be configured for GVWR over 26k, so i was mistaken on that

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[Jstpssng]

I find it ironic (Enviro today.... allegedly), as AFAIK, most of the plants/animals where road-brine is used are not Salt Water versions....

I think it started in the cities (like many things)..... if you put down Sand (works well, much of the time), then it can shorten the cleanout-cycle for storm-drains. So, flood the road with brine instead.... just washes away later, as does your vehicle-body/frame......

Rgds, D.

The difference is that with brine, two days after a storm people can go back to driving like it’s sunny and 70.
Sanding still leaves the ice until spring.

 

[paulsharvey]

Here is a chart i had AI make, showing 1975-2025, and Household income vs average 1 Ton base model truck sale price. Things seem to track around 50% of annual household income buys a 1 ton, until the year 2000, and shoots up pretty fast to currently, nearly 5/6th of the average household income for a new 1 ton.

 

[RB5]

Here is a chart i had AI make, showing 1975-2025, and Household income vs average 1 Ton base model truck sale price. Things seem to track around 50% of annual household income buys a 1 ton, until the year 2000, and shoots up pretty fast to currently, nearly 5/6th of the average household income for a new 1 ton.View attachment 4071771

Mid 2000s is about then they all started adding more and more tech and sensors to the trucks. After that the EPA under Obama started adding more and more restrictions. That confirms what we have all been talking about. It is stupid to add $10k or more to the price to get one or two more mpg. Government regulations are killing the middle income families. I get it that some people like having a loaded out truck, but not everyone does.