ken's bolt on hooks on b3200 bucket

[itpdk9]

hello all,

i purchased kens hooks that i found here on TBN. My question is how did you guys mount the on the kubota bucket? There is the unsupported lip in the bucket which i bent already (before hook purchase) which is posing the problem... Does anyone have any pictures of how they mounted their hooks on the B3200? Thanks again for your help

 

[jeff9366]

Congratulations on buying a reliable product.

Most people with actual experience mount bucket hooks in line with the FEL arms, where chained bucket loads are best supported against TWISTING. This is especially recommended for bucket hooks used on COMPACT tractors. Some people with heavier tractors/buckets, mount hooks further out for easier access on wide buckets.

I recommend 1/4" Grade 70 or 5/16" Grade 70 chain. You will probably want two lengths, one about 8' and one about 12', each with a slip hook on one end and a grab hook on the other end.

5/16" Grade 70 chain is most cheaply available from Lowes and Home Depot in the "towing" section, pre-packaged as one 20' length, with grab hooks on both ends, in a bag. Ask the store to cut it for you 8'/12'. Grade 70 is very hard to cut even with a diamond grit blade in a Sawzall. You need Grade 70 hooks with Grade 70 chain.

1/4" Grade 70 chain is harder to find. However, working on a hot day it is much lighter.

Your tractor does not have enough tire traction to stress either weight of Grade 70 chain, in my opinion.

My tractor is a Kubota B3300SU / 33-hp / 1,900 pounds, about equivalent to yours.

I have used Ken's 5/16" bolt on bucket hooks, without backing plates, for over a year with no deformation nor deterioration whatsoever.

It is easy to mount the hooks but invest in two new, therefore sharp, drills and a punch, for the installation.

 

[lew61]

I installed a set of bolt-on hooks on my heavy duty bucket using backing plates. It's a solid install, imho. As Jeff says, it's a good idea to align the hooks with the FEL arms.

 

[creekbend]

When I purchaqsed my bolt on hooks from Ken around 1 1/2 years ago, there were mounting instructions in the box.

 

[itpdk9]

Jeff, My concern was the fact that I have already bent the top part of my bucket where you have your hooks attached to. I didn't know if the hooks were ok to be installed there or if I should go thru the bucket part behind that? I did get backing plates with my hooks too. I understand how to install them my question is more where, I agree with them being lined up with the arms which I was going to do. So I guess I should have said specifically is it ok to install on that rolled lip or should I go behind the lip but then the chain would be running onto the lip which I think would definitely bend. Hopefully this makes my question more clear, and thanks to all who have chimed in i appreciate it.

 

[creekbend]

Can you reinforce the top of your bucket with angle iron and then bolt the hooks on top of the angle iron? Just a thought.

 

[David Devuono]

I will be doing this exact job this week and will post pictures when I am done. My bucket is also dinged and so I will try and use a hydraulic jack to straighten the top and weld in some angle. Think I may also add some 1/8 plate to the side of the bucket on my B3200 as well.

 

[itpdk9]

Very cool david, I just got my work lights in the mail today so I will be installing those and gotta figure out what to do with my hooks. Unfortunately I am not a welder or that would be my answer. I will take some pictures as well. Let me know how it works out for you. Thanks.

 

[sandyc]

My dealer here installs the hooks before delivery. They use the snow blower stanchion cut to size and welded to the FEL. The hook is then welded on to that. There is plenty of support for the FEL and they will lift/move whatever I chain up to. Great for removing small pines up to 3 or 4 inches.

 

[itpdk9]

My dealer here installs the hooks before delivery. They use the snow blower stanchion cut to size and welded to the FEL. The hook is then welded on to that. There is plenty of support for the FEL and they will lift/move whatever I chain up to. Great for removing small pines up to 3 or 4 inches.

Sandyc, I am not sure that I know what a snowblower stanchion is? Do you have any pictures of your set up? I would love to see what you are talking about. Thanks for your help

 

[Teikas Dad]

I haven't welded mine up yet (project for this weekend) but this is what I'm going to do on my B3200 bucket with a piece of 3X3 angle. Then the weld on hooks and shackle mounts will be welded to the top of the angle. The photo shows a piece of 2X2 angle that I had laying around that I used for the concept. Disregard the holes on the drawing of the angle/bucket lip. I was considering doing plug welds in addition to stitch welding the edges. Not going to do the plug welds. I'll post pictures after I get it done.

 

[David Devuono]

Beat you to it, lol. I found 2.5x2.5 (3/16) angle fits nicely. Here is were I am at today.

 

[FIREMAN Q]

Just welded some hook on my L3800

 

[FIREMAN Q]

Just welded some hooks on my L3800... I have often wondered why hooks wouldn't just come standard?

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[kennyd]

I have often wondered why hooks wouldn't just come standard?

Simple answer: Liability. No OEM offers them-even on large construction grade machines, and some dealers will not add them either.

 

[s219]

Here's how I mounted them on my B2920, which has the same sort of "lip" on the bucket as the B3200:

I understand the quandary with this type of bucket lip, so you either have to mount the hooks back a bit, or reinforce the lip as others have shown here.

I've been using the hooks quite a bit since I mounted them last fall, and this mounting location has worked well for me. One thing I do like about this mount is that I get a lot of control/leverage when curling the bucket with the chains hanging down, and I think it also puts the stress far away from the bucket lip, creating more meat to handle loads.

 

[Tompet]

s219, that was a new idea on placement and it would seem to move stress back towards pivot point with full curl power applied. Did you give any thought to placing them inline with the FEL arms? Anyway, nice job!

 

[Freddieboy]

Here's how I mounted them on my B2920, which has the same sort of "lip" on the bucket as the B3200:

I understand the quandary with this type of bucket lip, so you either have to mount the hooks back a bit, or reinforce the lip as others have shown here.

I've been using the hooks quite a bit since I mounted them last fall, and this mounting location has worked well for me. One thing I do like about this mount is that I get a lot of control/leverage when curling the bucket with the chains hanging down, and I think it also puts the stress far away from the bucket lip, creating more meat to handle loads.

Man, this is timely information. I just put this same question to Ken yesterday about my 2920.

Thanks for posting......it looks like the lip is supporting the chains pretty good, no?

 

[marcusg7]

bonjour,voici mes image :thumbsup: de mais crochet sur mon b2620. ps merci pour le forum et a tous le monde.:thumbsup:

 

[s219]

s219, that was a new idea on placement and it would seem to move stress back towards pivot point with full curl power applied. Did you give any thought to placing them inline with the FEL arms? Anyway, nice job!

I would have preferred to have them inline with the cylinders and arms, but on the right side Kubota puts the level indicator for the bucket in that spot, so there was no room for the hook there. So I decided to move them slightly outboard. That part of the bucket is pretty stiff due to the sidewall, and not too far from the arms, so I think it's a fair compromise.