Kioti CS2510 vs Kubota B2650 for Snow Removal

[RCbondo]

How old is your blower? What make/model? Also, what consistency is your snow? Light fluffy stuff is going to go further. The David Brown should be able to sling snow pretty well, paired with the right blower.

If you want a forward blower, cab, and enough power, well the Grand L6060 exists.

Fair warning, the Case I linked to is by far the cheaper option. Grand Ls are about the same size as your David Brown.

My blower is a Ford and is at least 20 years old. The model info is long gone. Our snow is mostly light and fluffy typically 10% moisture content. My walk behind 8hp blower can throw the snow higher than the David Brown. Both the front and rear blowers on this B2601 comparison video thrown the snow much farther than my current setup.

 

[lpakiz]

FWIW, i bought a 54 HP Massey 1754 with 6’ front mounted snow blower, cab with heat and A/C, 4-WD and hydrostatic transmission. The blower is powered via belly PTO and driveshaft under the tractor.
In my opinion, a hydrostatic is almost mandatory if you intend to do much snow blowing.
We have been slammed with snow in the month of Februrary, as well as lots of wind and drifting.
I absolutely love this arrangement and even tho it was north of $40K, you couldnt get it away from me for twice the money.
As far as width, 72” is minimum, as i barely cut wide enough to clear the rear wheels. I could (and would) go wider, but only because of the hydrostatic, which allows me to creep in deep drifts and shoot ahead quickly thru bare spots. Backing up quick is also easy, and you can go slow to manuever into tight places.
With the blower on the front, you have excellant control (and visibility) and can cut within a couple inches of markers, mailbox post, trees, etc.
It is a pile of money, for sure, but it will move tons of snow 40-75 feet, easy.

 

[RCbondo]

FWIW, i bought a 54 HP Massey 1754 with 6 front mounted snow blower, cab with heat and A/C, 4-WD and hydrostatic transmission. The blower is powered via belly PTO and driveshaft under the tractor.
In my opinion, a hydrostatic is almost mandatory if you intend to do much snow blowing.
We have been slammed with snow in the month of Februrary, as well as lots of wind and drifting.
I absolutely love this arrangement and even tho it was north of $40K, you couldnt get it away from me for twice the money.
As far as width, 72 is minimum, as i barely cut wide enough to clear the rear wheels. I could (and would) go wider, but only because of the hydrostatic, which allows me to creep in deep drifts and shoot ahead quickly thru bare spots. Backing up quick is also easy, and you can go slow to manuever into tight places.
With the blower on the front, you have excellant control (and visibility) and can cut within a couple inches of markers, mailbox post, trees, etc.
It is a pile of money, for sure, but it will move tons of snow 40-75 feet, easy.

Thanks. I appreciate that description. With my David Brown, I only have a few rear speeds and even in the slowest speed I am riding the clutch (it's live drive so no affect on the blower) to creep in deep snow. That's tough on both the leg, hip, and neck while twisted traveling in reverse. I find myself taking passes with just half the width of the blower many times so I don't have to ride the clutch to slow down. Even with a smaller blower on a compact tractor I'd probably take the same or fewer passes with a hydrostatic transmission. Does your hydrostatic use two pedals or the treadle pedal?

 

[lpakiz]

My hydrostatic has 2 pedals, side by side. I could send (or post) a couple pics if you are seriously interested in this brand. PM me.
I get the “clutch-slipping” as a “go slow” tactic, but the clutch is living on borrowed time. I did that for years on my old 400 Case, to hold the tractor on a grade and run higher RPMs for raising and dumping my loader bucket. How that clutch plate and throw out bearing survived 35 years of that kind of abuse is a tribute to the toughness of those old Case tractors.
There are higher end tractors (green ones and orange ones) and lower tier tractors (un-named) so i consider the Massey as “middle of the road” quality.
I dont mean to gloat, but after 35 years of open station tractor and 9’ backblade and FEL, snow prediction events are now highly anticipated and thoroughly enjoyed when they get here.
I wouldnt worry too much about size and HP, because now, it doesnt matter if it takes a 1/2 hour or a 1/2 day to clear the yard. (Retired) Its done in total comfort. (Still, more power is better) Its very satisfying to see my former nemisis (snow) being thrown about and humiliated, and im warm and dry doing it. I have absolutely no problem creeping into the plow berm the township leaves in the driveway. 18” deep and 8’ wide, it slowly disappears, landing way out on the lawn or in the ditch across the road, depending on wind direction.
I was very close to buying a new LS (blue) tractor, but my cousin was a salesman with the Massey folks and got me an extroidinary deal.
A couple Massey advantages include having the hydrostatic pedals linked to the throttle. The engine speeds up when either hst pedal is depressed, and returns to idle (or where ever you have the hand throttle set) when either pedal is released.
Also, this Massey has a “response” adjuster dial, which programs how aggressive (fast) or relaxed (slow) the transmission responds to pedal movements. Wonderful for loader work. These 2 features, to me, were worth the $2000 price difference.
Again, its a lot of money, but whatever you get, if it has a cab, you will not regret it.
Be aware, there are a couple of Massey owners who have problems with the hydrostatic not delivering power to the ground, so choose your dealer carefully. A test drive, prior to signing on the dotted line, of the ACTUAL unit you are going to purchase, using the loader in a pile of dirt or gravel, might be a good idea. The rear wheels should spin easily in the highest speed range at relatively low (not idle-maybe 1300?RPM) engine speed. But loader work is usually done in slow or midrange transfer case speeds, not the highest speed.

 

[CDN24]

There's a 35HP NH on kijiji.... 200hrs, 60" quick attach FEL, 60" Meteor snow blower, sun roof.

 

[TheMadOne]

There's a 35HP NH on kijiji.... 200hrs, 60" quick attach FEL, 60" Meteor snow blower, sun roof.

Kijiji is Canada only, isn't it?

 

[CDN24]

Canada only? Canada yes, the tractor is in Owen Sound Ontario.

 

[Trillium Farm]

I think 5 HP per foot would be about right. It would seem to me you would need a compact tractor in 45-50 HP range, it would have decent size rubber and could take a decent size blower, the 540 and 1000 make no difference, I like the blower on the back and a loader on the front, it's a good combination for snow removal IMO. Seems to me the tractors you're looking at would be to small for the snow removal you intend to do with it..

My feelings exactly! The OP ought to look at tractors in the 50-60hp class, the BX2680 has about 19hp at PTO @ 3200 RPM he need something running @ 540 RPM and with a lot more power. Also I'd stay way away from HST it robs the machine of too much power (about 25%) He's asking a pony to do the job of a Clydesdale.

 

[herm0016]

160 hp tractor with Snow blower / cheap - business/commercial - by owner - sale

i saw this a few days ago, reminded me of you.

new is nice, but a sub compact may just be a bit small for your operation.

also: Kubota L424 Tractor W/Attachments - farm & garden - by owner - sale

 

[wagne223]

I'll just steal Jeff's saying.......Buy enough tractor!