Kioti deal or no deal price?

[paulsharvey]

On warranty; companies aren't all just ponying up on you or anyone's word. There is a video circulating online now about Cummins refusing to repair an almost new heavy truck engine, after they pulled dealer only readable codes showing multiple over speed codes. I "think" in the video the guy says it was 'several short run time over RPM limits codes' but it still was used outside the warranty parameters.

 

[paulsharvey]

To our OPs question; this is the exact same price and tractor is available locally at the dealer I bought my Ck2610 from a year ago. So, the video you shared, dealer is blowing smoke about him "taking all the over stock and giving you a Great deal"

 

[tacticalturnip]

It looks like Deere tells their owners to torque bolts too; cheap Korean junk.

Frame Bolts - Check em

www.greentractortalk.com

 

[Too many Kubotas]

At Deere's prices they should send someone out to check them for you.

 

[aesanders]

To say that this bolt torque is only a Kioti issue is non-sense. Every tractor specifies to torque bolt, especially lug and loader mount bolts.

 

[RjCorazza]

Over the years, I have read enough about loader and wheel bolts loosening up that it should be common knowledge to even the non mechanically inclined.

 

[paulsharvey]

In his defense, we all probably should do better. It's like air pressure, or checking the oil, how many honestly check Every time before the use a piece of equipment or drive a vehicle.

But, it's not a Korean vs Indian vs German vs Japanese thing; it's all operators and drivers should be checking more; bolt/nuts, oil, coolant, air pressure, ect. When was the last time everyone blew out their air filter?

 

[tacticalturnip]

In his defense, we all probably should do better. It's like air pressure, or checking the oil, how many honestly check Every time before the use a piece of equipment or drive a vehicle.

But, it's not a Korean vs Indian vs German vs Japanese thing; it's all operators and drivers should be checking more; bolt/nuts, oil, coolant, air pressure, ect. When was the last time everyone blew out their air filter?

While you're quite right, it's our friends attitude that resulted in these responses.

 

[D&D]

In his defense, we all probably should do better. It's like air pressure, or checking the oil, how many honestly check Every time before the use a piece of equipment or drive a vehicle.

But, it's not a Korean vs Indian vs German vs Japanese thing; it's all operators and drivers should be checking more; bolt/nuts, oil, coolant, air pressure, ect. When was the last time everyone blew out their air filter?

Stuff is way too expensive to not take care of it. You’re probably right though, everyone yaps about scheduled maintenance but little about day to day.

While walking up, scan the machine and ask “does anything look out of place/lop sided”, fluid leaking or puddles on the ground? Torque marks on wheels, loader mounts, etc? You gotta pop the hood and check oil level, coolant level, hydraulics, scan for leaks, belts, funky hoses. Yes, it takes a few minutes, minutes that aren’t wasted time.

Do you (or the boss) let your operators jump on and not check? What delays are caused when the piece blows the motor or pump when no one bothered to check the oil(s), fluid(s), belts and hoses?

 

[Oakfield1862]

Nope, but I torque them about twice a year, because while these bolts should be torqued down during pre-delivery inspection, that's not always done. None of mine have been lose, but it happens.

Kioti didn't **** you @Redlined0002, your dealer did, and from what I've heard you're not the first. I wouldn't buy from LSE, period; they're a great resource on YouTube, but a quick search here will bring up a few warranty cases that all come down to poor dealer practices.

@BaznastyDave just had issue with them over improper valve stems on filled tires.

Oh, and @Oakfield1862 had a fun experience with their sales team.

Yep, I was ready to buy a tractor and all the implements from them. They didn't negotiate and luckily, I learned that I could drive north to KY the same distance to LSE and get a much better deal on Kubota or JD. If you are in the Nashville area, do yourself a favor and get prices for Agri Power and Hutson in Russellville, KY. Compared to the Kubota and JD dealers near me in TN, the KY dealers are 20% cheaper.

I also figured out that the ironcraft flails are not made in Italy, but India. I bought the Novatractor BCRM because just like Maschio and Frontier, their flails are made in China, but with Italian parts. The BCRM weights almost 300lbs more than the IC.

 

[arrow]

Stuff is way too expensive to not take care of it. You’re probably right though, everyone yaps about scheduled maintenance but little about day to day.

While walking up, scan the machine and ask “does anything look out of place/lop sided”, fluid leaking or puddles on the ground? Torque marks on wheels, loader mounts, etc? You gotta pop the hood and check oil level, coolant level, hydraulics, scan for leaks, belts, funky hoses. Yes, it takes a few minutes, minutes that aren’t wasted time.

Do you (or the boss) let your operators jump on and not check? What delays are caused when the piece blows the motor or pump when no one bothered to check the oil(s), fluid(s), belts and hoses?

About witness marks. I have seen them done incorrectly a multitude of times and have had to take alcohol to erase these marks done w markers from a previous assembly point.
It is not the body or hand position that dictates the mark. I have seen witness marks follow more like what you’d see on an analog wristwatch that uses just slashes for numbers.
Whichever direction you choose to reaffirm or replace them, be sure to make them all parallell to the first mark you make.

 

[Too many Kubotas]

Over the years, I have read enough about loader and wheel bolts loosening up that it should be common knowledge to even the non mechanically inclined.

They're easier to check on some Kiotis than others.

 

[Too many Kubotas]

Whichever direction you choose to reaffirm or replace them, be sure to make them all parallell to the first mark you make.

For that to work, a fastener has be be used in the same hole or on the same stud it was removed from.

 

[arrow]

For that to work, a fastener has be be used in the same hole or on the same stud it was removed from.

Nope.
You do not need a fixed point as you are doing with parrallel method. They will always be in the same direction unless one starts to loosen and that one will not look like the others.

 

[paulsharvey]

So, I know we went Way off the OPs question, But. Anyways, I had kinda kept an eye on my loader bolts, as well as wheel bolts, but after this, figured I should check. Now, keep in mind, I'm only at like 78 hours or so, and maybe 13-14 months of ownership on this machine. Grap a 22mm (maybe thats wrong, it's bigger than 21mm, but 22 felt a bit sloppy but worked); set torque wrench for 90 ft/# after all, I was just checking, and didn't expect any to be loose, and didn't look up numbers. Of 14 loader bolts, I got rotating at 90 ft/# on like 10 of them, some of them a good bit. Then check, and it's more like 140 ft/# (Google, not manual, that's inside).

Point being, all of us should check more often. That coming from someone who was talking crap a few posts above...

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