Korean tractor dilemma

[Torvy]

Haha what? The lift hight for the mt 226 is identical to the kubota l2502. The kioti ck2620 is 2in high and the tym 2515 is about 8in higher. And yes the tym 2515 class of tractors are notorius for bending cylinders. Most likly due to trying to have the highest lift height and lift capacity while using the same sized rams as a unit rated for less weight.

Tractor Data
LS ~ 84 inches

TractorData.com LS MT225S tractor attachments information

www.tractordata.com

Kubota ~ 95 inches

TractorData.com Kubota L2502 tractor attachments information

www.tractordata.com

Kioti ~ 98 inches

TractorData.com Kioti CK2620 tractor attachments information

www.tractordata.com

TYM ~104 inches

TractorData.com Branson 2515 tractor attachments information

www.tractordata.com

Using height at pins makes the measurements consistent. The LS website says 'height' but they count the top of the bucket.

Unless you have statistics to backup your claim on the 15 series, it is nothing more than anecdotal evidence and specious at best due to the source being internet rumor.

 

[caleb90]

Tractor Data
LS ~ 84 inches

TractorData.com LS MT225S tractor attachments information

www.tractordata.com

Kubota ~ 95 inches

TractorData.com Kubota L2502 tractor attachments information

www.tractordata.com

Kioti ~ 98 inches

TractorData.com Kioti CK2620 tractor attachments information

www.tractordata.com

TYM ~104 inches

TractorData.com Branson 2515 tractor attachments information

www.tractordata.com

Using height at pins makes the measurements consistent. The LS website says 'height' but they count the top of the bucket.

Unless you have statistics to backup your claim on the 15 series, it is nothing more than anecdotal evidence and specious at best due to the source being internet rumor.

The ls 225s is a sub compact. Like a tym t25 or a kubota bx23. If you look at a ls mt225e lift height is 92in at the pins and the mt 226e is 94.2in at the pins.

Its not internet rumor, its a known issue with the tyms.

 

[Yander]

From what you’ve said, you should consider buying a JD 855/955.

So, a Yanmar lol

 

[Yander]

The OP is buying Korean tractors due to the cheaper initial purchase price but, doesn't get the perceived advantages of the majority of 'classic' tractor brands.

Dealer support is largely overlooked as well.

I don't know about anyone else but, I don't go to a FAST FOOD DRIVE-THRU and then complain I'm not getting a nice dinner like I would at a good restaurant or diner for a bit more. For me, is a $10.99 Chilli's burger and fries or ~$13 drive-thru burger in a bag the 'buyer experience' I want?

Not a fitting analogy. If you get food poisoning at the fast food place you would complain.

Now the analogy fits.

He's having to have his tractor split with less than 100 hours on it for Pete's sake.

 

[ptsg]

Personally, I don't even count loader or front axle failures as a fault of the manufacturer. The stuff people do when they see a loader on a tractor is unbelievable, but they jump straight to blaming the manufacturer and demanding this and that. Not only people new to tractors, but supposedly "experienced" operators too.

I'm honestly surprised how much of that crap is covered under warranty.

People don't realize that a loader on a tractor, is just an attachment meant to do light to medium duty work. Not a bulldozer, not a skidsteer, not a industrial loader.

Just recently, someone was using some sort of makeshift attachment on a bucket to dig trenches going backwards on a TYM T574. Of course it bent those bucket cylinders like a complete pretzel. Is it really fault of the manufacturer? I mean, common sense is needed... Needless to say, lots of people jumped straight the blame the manufacturer bandwagon, the same people that have 0 clue how things work and how forces are applied.

 

[BubbaSam]

So im 2 for 2 on korea tractors being lemons. Tym first and had issues right at 9hr, wanted a bigger tractor and the tym put a bad taste in my mouth. So i went with ls the second time around, this one made it 49hr before going back to the dealer. The ls will have to be split and i expect for it to be gone 3 months at the least as it needs a new hst pump. I could keep it, but im the type of person that when a piece of equipment or vehicle fails that bad or needs that much work. I would never trust it and would continue to have resentment over it. So that being said i will most likly sell when i get it back and buy new. I really like how the korean tractors get you more for the money, and they really do out pace kubota john deere and massey in the loader department. But im really getting tired of messing with them due to subpar quality. Do i try for lucky #3 and get a kioti to replace the ls , or do i buy a used kubota or massey and live with the weaker loaders and deal with the crappy loader joy stick location?

If you decide to give Korea another shot... I vote for purchasing a Kioti. Had mine for 19 years and have only had to replace the loader piston kits (after 15 years). It's been an absolute GREAT tractor for me.

 

[2manyrocks]

Personally, I don't even count loader or front axle failures as a fault of the manufacturer. The stuff people do when they see a loader on a tractor is unbelievable, but they jump straight to blaming the manufacturer and demanding this and that. Not only people new to tractors, but supposedly "experienced" operators too.

I'm honestly surprised how much of that crap is covered under warranty.

People don't realize that a loader on a tractor, is just an attachment meant to do light to medium duty work. Not a bulldozer, not a skidsteer, not a industrial loader.

Just recently, someone was using some sort of makeshift attachment on a bucket to dig trenches going backwards on a TYM T574. Of course it bent those bucket cylinders like a complete pretzel. Is it really fault of the manufacturer? I mean, common sense is needed... Needless to say, lots of people jumped straight the blame the manufacturer bandwagon, the same people that have 0 clue how things work and how forces are applied.

Marketing also is to blame because so many skid steer attachments are being used on tractors these days.

 

[CloverKnollFarms]

Personally, I don't even count loader or front axle failures as a fault of the manufacturer. The stuff people do when they see a loader on a tractor is unbelievable, but they jump straight to blaming the manufacturer and demanding this and that. Not only people new to tractors, but supposedly "experienced" operators too.

I'm honestly surprised how much of that crap is covered under warranty.

People don't realize that a loader on a tractor, is just an attachment meant to do light to medium duty work. Not a bulldozer, not a skidsteer, not a industrial loader.

Just recently, someone was using some sort of makeshift attachment on a bucket to dig trenches going backwards on a TYM T574. Of course it bent those bucket cylinders like a complete pretzel. Is it really fault of the manufacturer? I mean, common sense is needed... Needless to say, lots of people jumped straight the blame the manufacturer bandwagon, the same people that have 0 clue how things work and how forces are applied.

This is one reason I bought new. Equipment can be heavily abused by people with no mechanical inclination. I bought my FIL a new, pro-sumer mower a few years ago. Dead now at 240 hours. Killed a Kawasaki motor in 240 hours! The rest of the mower looks 20 years old. While my XOne, purchased at the same time, same hours, runs and looks new.

 

[WamuTenne]

If reliability and peace of mind are important to you—and it sounds like they are—going for a used Kubota or Massey could be a safer bet, even with their weaker loader performance. Kubota, in particular, has a reputation for long-term reliability, and you'd likely find it easier to trust and maintain. You can always adjust to the joystick position or seek aftermarket solutions for comfort.

 

[WVH1977]

An L is great for mowing. I was referring to ground engaging implements and heavy loader lifts. This was in response to the post that stated those were faults of the L series. I was pointing out that the L series is primarily designed for estate maintenance duties, not heavy ground engagement or lifting. Yes, you can do all of those things you mention and I used to mow 20 acres with a 25hp JD tractor. But that’s not the intended design purpose and indeed it’s slow with a 4’ rotary cutter.

The L6060 specs for 3pt lift capacity are 2976 24" behind. MX6000 is 2410 at 24" behind.

The L6060 Machine weight is 3990 lbs and the MX is 3734 lbs.

The L6060 1055 loader lift at pins is 2361 lbs. The MX loader LA 1065 lift at pins is 2275 lbs.

The MX series is a nice tractor but when compared to the Grand L6060 it is not as heavy and strong machine. Niot huge differences but the Grand L is well built, solid and up to the same tasks as an MX. The L6060 is similiar footprint as the standard L series tractor with more weight, strength and creature comforts.

I looked real hard at the MX tractors but thought the Grand L was nicer and could do all the work an MX can without issue. A lot of people tend to overlook this fact when looking at Kubota. They tend to compare standard L series to MX and not the Grand L. Maybe this is due to the pricing factor.