Kubota Super UDT and filters.

[Trillium Farm]

Kubota and every other equipment manufacturer has a vested interest in providing filters and fluids of a quality that helps optimize and lengthen the performance of their branded equipment so that equipment gains public favor and widespread approval. Quality is more important than price point.
Aftermarket filter and fluid retailers have a vested interest in market share for their products, the big picture for them is the fluids and filters themselves, not the equipment those fluids and filters protect. The benchmark of aftermarket filters is the price point and not failing or causing an acute equipment failure while they are in use.

Plus 100 absolutely right!

 

[rScotty]

Kubota and every other equipment manufacturer has a vested interest in providing filters and fluids of a quality that helps optimize and lengthen the performance of their branded equipment so that equipment gains public favor and widespread approval. Quality is more important than price point.
Aftermarket filter and fluid retailers have a vested interest in market share for their products, the big picture for them is the fluids and filters themselves, not the equipment those fluids and filters protect. The benchmark of aftermarket filters is the price point and not failing or causing an acute equipment failure while they are in use.

That certainly sounds very nice, but it also sounds like an optimistic opinion rather than having any factual basis.
rScotty

 

[ovrszd]

That certainly sounds very nice, but it also sounds like an optomistic opinion rather than having any factual basis.
rScotty

Let's hear your optimistic opinion about the subject?

 

[rScotty]

Let's hear your optimistic opinion about the subject?

I'm generally optimistic. Yes, I know I'm both old and old-fashioned in the way I form opinions. But I tend to prefer to go with facts.
I just feel more comfortable making a judgement based on evidence rather than on my own emotional bias.
There are lots who feel the other way around, and that's OK with me.
It just means that my own opinion is more likely to be based on what I know rather than what I believe.

The downside to preferring facts to bias is there are a lot of times where I have to say, "I just don't know much about that".
Filters and oils are that way for me. Being a kind of scientific guy, I sure do wish I knew how they really are made..... but the truth is I have no knowledge or evidence of how they are actually made.

If you do, I'll listen.....
rScotty

 

[ovrszd]

I'm generally optimistic. Yes, I know I'm both old and old-fashioned in the way I form opinions. But I tend to prefer to go with facts.
I just feel more comfortable making a judgement based on evidence rather than on my own emotional bias.
There are lots who feel the other way around, and that's OK with me.
It just means that my own opinion is more likely to be based on what I know rather than what I believe.

The downside to preferring facts to bias is there are a lot of times where I have to say, "I just don't know much about that".
Filters and oils are that way for me. Being a kind of scientific guy, I sure do wish I knew how they really are made..... but the truth is I have no knowledge or evidence of how they are actually made.

If you do, I'll listen.....
rScotty

Which parts of Rick's narrative do you not agree with?

As for facts about it, I guess we could read the manufacturer's writings about their goals? Probably follow very closely to what Rick said.

 

[Trillium Farm]

I'm generally optimistic. Yes, I know I'm both old and old-fashioned in the way I form opinions. But I tend to prefer to go with facts.
I just feel more comfortable making a judgement based on evidence rather than on my own emotional bias.
There are lots who feel the other way around, and that's OK with me.
It just means that my own opinion is more likely to be based on what I know rather than what I believe.

The downside to preferring facts to bias is there are a lot of times where I have to say, "I just don't know much about that".
Filters and oils are that way for me. Being a kind of scientific guy, I sure do wish I knew how they really are made..... but the truth is I have no knowledge or evidence of how they are actually made.

If you do, I'll listen.....
rScotty

Even if what you call facts may be lacking, one could infer with common sense that no company would sabotage itself by using an inferior filter that could damage a product THEY make and thereby cast a pall on the whole product. Even an upstart company ought to have more sense than that let alone Kubota.

 

[RickB]

I have no hard facts to support my contention that manufacturers intend their support products to cast their equipment offerings in the best possible light. To suggest they might not have that goal opens the door to a level of absurdity that I refuse to address.

I also have no facts to support the theory that retailers of aftermarket fluids and filters strive to sell the highest volume possible by limiting the problems their offerings cause in the marketplace while remaining price competitive. It occurs to me that if those goals were not present in those companies business models they probably should be.

But in my folly of posting thoughts without an appendix of supporting references I will sleep soundly tonight, as I did last night. Most of those who whine about facts seldom find and offer any on their own. The entire narrative concerning fluids and filters is built around opinions. Anyone who cares about vehicle and power equipment maintenance and has internet access should know that.

 

[fried1765]

I have no hard facts to support my contention that manufacturers intend their support products to cast their equipment offerings in the best possible light. To suggest they might not have that goal opens the door to a level of absurdity that I refuse to address.

I also have no facts to support the theory that retailers of aftermarket fluids and filters strive to sell the highest volume possible by limiting the problems their offerings cause in the marketplace while remaining price competitive. It occurs to me that if those goals were not present in those companies business models they probably should be.

But in my folly of posting thoughts without an appendix of supporting references I will sleep soundly tonight, as I did last night. Most of those who whine about facts seldom find and offer any on their own. The entire narrative concerning fluids and filters is built around opinions. Anyone who cares about vehicle and power equipment maintenance and has internet access should know that.

"The entire narrative concerning fluids and filters is built around opinions"

YUP !!!!!!

 

[number two]

5 gallon pail of Super UDT2 today at the dealer $89.09 USD-spring sale.

 

[PsRumors]

5 gallon pail of Super UDT2 today at the dealer $89.09 USD-spring sale.

That's a reasonable price