kubota vs. kioti

   / kubota vs. kioti #51  
I see. Thanks Roger. A lot of factors there. But, I think the biggest one is R1's vs. R4's. I'm less than impressed by the traction of R4's.

I agree ... R4's offer little traction in anything other than packed gravel, hard surfaces, or a packed dry field.
 
   / kubota vs. kioti #52  
My PTO butt dyno and every PTO implement I own tell me different I say NOT true.

I'll never own another POS Kubota!

Fred

What does that have to do with anything?
 
   / kubota vs. kioti #53  
What good is the tractor if it can barely power an implement?
 
   / kubota vs. kioti #55  
The 8N had R1 tires and the Bobcat had R4's. The 8N had calcium in the tires. The Bobcat had either methanol or magnesium, every time I asked at the dealer what fluid they put in the tires I got a different answer. If you look at a 8N the front axle is in front of the engine, so a lot of the weight is on the rear. If you get a 8N on a somewhat hard pull the front will lift. The Bobcat had the loader on it, I don't know if this helped or hurt it, never tried it without. With the diff locked and in 4wd the Bobcat had 3 tires pulling versus the 8N having 1 tire pulling. I was on the Bobcat and I could start dragging the 8N backwards and he could let out on the clutch and easily pull the Bobcat. The front was barely lifting on the 8N. I saw an antique tractor pull on RFD TV. They weighed each tractor. It was a contest to see who could pull the most percentage of their weight. I think a 8N pulled 75% and a Allis Chalmer won with 135%. Using both tractors for 3PH work the Bobcat seemed more powerful though. Maybe it was just because it was a hydro and I could contol my ground speed better than the 8N. Whenever you did anything with the 8N you spun quite a bit, but maybe it was doing better than I thought:confused3: I looked up the Nebraska test for the 8N, it would pull a max of 2810lbs, the tractor was ballasted to a weight of 4043lbs.
Interesting to have a 1WD 8N. Didnt know they ever made one. Odd that they would have.
larry
 
   / kubota vs. kioti #56  
LD1, What are your experiences with the Kioti? Stats are easy, I can look them up too. If all to choosing a tractor was weight, HP, and tires- that would be too easy.
I don't want to get in a pissing contest here, I just happen to have an opportunity to test two very similar in price yet to me different in performance tractors. I see you have a Kubota, good luck with it. I don't mean to make this personal.
I was warned that I would be flamed by Bota people for bringing up this subject. I should have listened.
Unfortunate when the OP makes a statement then cops an attitude and wont supply pertinent info..
 
   / kubota vs. kioti #57  
What good is the tractor if it can barely power an implement?

What good is the owner if he doesn't buy a tractor with enough horsepower?
 
   / kubota vs. kioti #58  
He's good for selling a practically new tractor for much less than new to some bargain hunter, once he figures out he bought too small to begin with. :)

What good is the owner if he doesn't buy a tractor with enough horsepower?
 
   / kubota vs. kioti #59  
He's good for selling a practically new tractor for much less than new to some bargain hunter, once he figures out he bought too small to begin with. :)

Actually he put on a Turbo!!
 

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