Buying Advice L series, what makes it Grand?

[TripleR]

Yes, that is my point, it's the capabilities that really set the two apart, not the features. There is a very large difference in capabilities of the two L branches of the series, and that is why they really need to be named as their own series. This is more confusing to me than naming from the other manufacturer. Deere has it's series, the 1000,2000,3000 etc, Kioti has the same type of thing, CS, CK, DK, RX as do the others. Each one denotes a size and horsepower range and you expect a big change as you move between each series. The L Series is different and here's an example of how I see it. The Kioti CK series compares to the standard L but you need to compare the DK series to the grand L machines. Having owned both a CK and DK series tractor, I can tell you they are night and day in what they can do, regardless of their features.

Thing is, if we understand it, it "seems" simple so Kubota "seems" easier to understand to me as a Kubota owner and Kioti "seems" easier to someone who owns a Kioti. Maybe I am just old and easily confused, but pretty much all the model designations confuse me until I sit down and study them. Our John Deere 2305 was replaced with a 1023/26, so why go from a 2000 Series to a 1000 Series when they are both a SCUT.:confused2:

I am sure it all makes sense to some, just not me.

 

[k0ua]

Thing is, if we understand it, it "seems" simple so Kubota "seems" easier to understand to me as a Kubota owner and Kioti "seems" easier to someone who owns a Kioti. Maybe I am just old and easily confused, but pretty much all the model designations confuse me until I sit down and study them. Our John Deere 2305 was replaced with a 1023/26, so why go from a 2000 Series to a 1000 Series when they are both a SCUT.:confused2:

I am sure it all makes sense to some, just not me.

And you know a lot about different models of tractors.. Imagine how confusing it must be for a newcomer to try to sort out all the different brands and lines of tractors within those brands, and then try to compare them side to side.. No wonder so many people get matched up with the "wrong" tractor and do so much trading as they gain more knowledge..There needs to be a "tractor consultant"

James K0UA

 

[TripleR]

And you know a lot about different models of tractors.. Imagine how confusing it must be for a newcomer to try to sort out all the different brands and lines of tractors within those brands, and then try to compare them side to side.. No wonder so many people get matched up with the "wrong" tractor and do so much trading as they gain more knowledge..There needs to be a "tractor consultant"

James K0UA

Ain't it the truth, I grew up farming when there weren't that many different models and when I decided to buy newer machines, I spent a LOT of time on the Internet and going to dealers on Sundays just to look around in confusion; make notes and do more research and I STILL get confused.

 

[Grateful11]

Deere has it's series, the 1000,2000,3000 etc, Kioti has the same type of thing, CS, CK, DK, RX as do the others. Each one denotes a size and horsepower range and you expect a big change as you move between each series. The L Series is different and here's an example of how I see it. The Kioti CK series compares to the standard L but you need to compare the DK series to the grand L machines. Having owned both a CK and DK series tractor, I can tell you they are night and day in what they can do, regardless of their features.

I think the video I linked to pretty much sums up what the HST+ system is all about.

Only until recently did JD wise up. I was talking to a JD mechanic one day and he said people really get upset when they call in and say for insistence "I've got a such and such number" and you have to ask if it's a tractor or a if it's implement. Because JD has used the same numbers over the years on tractors and implements. Then he said they get ticked off because they think you're supposed to know what they have. One problem with this thread is it almost got side tracked by someone that if their tractor doesn't have a certain feature then it can't be worth a penny.

JD numbering system: New Name and Numbering System for John Deere | AGWEB.com

 

[murphy1244]

I think you've made your point, what's not worth every penny to "you" might be to someone else. If you've never even tried one you wouldn't know. You really have to see in action to understand it. No one is saying yours or other HST's are inferior.

Maybe you should check this out for a better understanding of what it is:

Operating Kubota HST-Plus

Thanks for the link. I Am not trying to make any point. I just disagree that HST is worth every penny to me. Whats wrong with that?

 

[Grateful11]

Thanks for the link. I Am not trying to make any point. I just disagree that HST is worth every penny to me. Whats wrong with that?

In my opinion what's wrong with that is if you don't know anything about it or have never used it how would know what it's worth? I could make generalizations about all sorts of things all day but won't because I may not know anything about them. I'm not going to say for example: XYZ feature isn't worth a penny, when I know nothing about it.

 

[murphy1244]

In my opinion what's wrong with that is if you don't know anything about it or have never used it how would know what it's worth? I could make generalizations about all sorts of things all day but won't because I may not know anything about them. I'm not going to say for example: XYZ feature isn't worth a penny, when I know nothing about it.

Even a tractor is worth so much to me. I think you make a generalization when you value it. I don't have a hydraulic thumb on my BH but I know I would not pay 1000.00 for it and I never used one. Your being to touchy but I'm sorry if I offended you or anyone else. Problem with this thread is it almost got side tracked by someone that if their tractor doesn't have a certain feature then it can't be worth a penny.
You said that not me.

 

[94BULLITT]

The grand l also has a better motor.

 

[94BULLITT]

Even a tractor is worth so much to me. I think you make a generalization when you value it. I don't have a hydraulic thumb on my BH but I know I would not pay 1000.00 for it and I never used one. Your being to touchy but I'm sorry if I offended you or anyone else. Problem with this thread is it almost got side tracked by someone that if their tractor doesn't have a certain feature then it can't be worth a penny.
You said that not me.

I think if you ran a grand l with the dual speed hydro you would think a little differently about them. It is hard to understand how useful it is til you operate one.

 

[murphy1244]

I think if you ran a grand l with the dual speed hydro you would think a little differently about them. It is hard to understand how useful it is til you operate one.

That may be my next tractor who knows. It took some time to get talked into a HST even.