L6060 Cab Questions

[bdhsfz6]

I have a 2019 L6060 cab with 350 hrs on it. I live in Canada and the L6060 cabs up here come with front and rear work lights, defrosters, rear wiper and dual rear remotes as standard equipment. Here is my experience so far.

1. I also don't use a seat belt and don't have a problem seeing the loader at full height, that I recall but I don't lift things that high very often.

2. Mine came with a radio and I don't use it for a few reasons; 1) I prefer to listen to the tractor to see if I am working it too hard (mainly when using the snowblower), 2) we don't get radio stations where I live, and 3) it can be fairly loud in the cab depending on what work you are doing. You could always use a phone or other music player and ear buds if you really want to listen to music.

3. Mine came with the defrosters and a rear wiper. I use them often in the winter and they work very well.

4. Our temps range from +40C to -35C and I find the heater works great and usually end up wearing a T shirt in the winter. The AC works well too but not as good as the heater. Still plenty good enough that I have never thought it was inadequate. No noticeable power loss either.

5. I used to use a rear facing snow blower and found the rear visibility to be fine with the wiper and defrosters. I wouldn't want to do that operation without the defrosters though. I now have a rear inverted snow blower and the rear visibility is not a concern. I just drive forward and look forward. Waaaaaay better.

6. Mine came with the front and rear work lights. They are not very bright and I have thought about upgrading to LED's but I do do very little work in the dark and that is usually in the snow, so the lights are adequate in those conditions. I would image they would be inadequate working with a darker work environment.

7. I took a demo home and tried it for a day. I found the standard seat would not adjust very well and in the summer it would cause me to sweat. I opted for the air ride seat but it was expensive and not what I was expecting. I'm still glad I got the air ride seat but I preferred the non air ride Grammer seat that was in My Massey. One thing to note, if you get the air ride seat you can no longer use the PTO remotely, unless you put a heavy weight on the seat or bypass the safety switch. I bypassed the safety switch.

By the way, I've been running open station tractors before getting this one and I can tell you, getting a cab was one of the best moves I've made. My only regret is that I didn't do it sooner.
Picture yourself in the cab, blowing snow, wearing a T shirt in -25C weather.

Based on what I've heard so far, I'll skip the radio and go for the lights, defroster and wiper options. I can take the bright LED work lights off the old tractor before I trade it and replace the OEM's.

What to do about the seat is the big question. Without being able to try out the OEM, It's a tough call. I love the Grammar air ride on the old tractor but it doesn't swivel. I don't know how necessary that feature is on a cabbed model. I often wish I had that feature while using the rear mount snow thrower. As you said, I had to bypass the driver presence switch to use the PTO remotely on the old tractor. The same would have to be done on the new machine. As I mentioned in a previous post, I'll talk to the dealer about doing a seat swap.

I thought seriously about a cab on my previous two Kubotas but passed. I maintain 12 wooded acres and a cab would take a beating. I also mow up to the tree line bordering the 7 acres of lawn I groom. All together, there is about a mile of tree line that needs to be limbed up to make clearance for a cabbed tractor.

I now have the open station MX5800 to do the woods maintenance and will bite the bullet and do the limbing. As you say, I'll likely regret not having chosen a cab model sooner.

Thanks for your detailed input.

 

[bdhsfz6]

I have an L4060 cab since 2017. Love it.
1. I never noticed any visibility problems in general (6'0"), but I guess knocking snow off of high tree branches I would need to learn forward, but I've only done that a few times.

2. IMHO it's worth getting a radio, but not the oem radio. I paid big $ for the Kubota radio, and I really miss the Bluetooth and USB. Kubota's radio is fine quality wise, just lacking features for what I paid for it ($700?). I believe the tractor comes prewired with speakers regardless.

3. I have a rear wiper and defogger and don't have fogging issues. Running the heat in AC mode clears the glass nicely. The rear defoggers help while snow blowing. Quarter glass windows can also have defoggers, but I didn't add that option. The defoggers eat up amps, so you may want to upgrade to the 90a alternator if you get the defoggers - I didn't, but switched all lighting to led except the head lights and corner lights.

4. The heat and AC are more than adequate. I plow in a T shirt, and generally have to turn the heat down. I also turn the AC down in the summer, mostly because I hate getting out into a much hotter environment.

5. The rear wiper helps, but it's a little on the small side. Defogger is a big plus for blowing. Overall, rear visibility is great.

6. The first change I made to mine was 54w led worklights front and rear. Night into day. I ordered the OEM lights for the brackets and switches... The wiring will already be there.

7. I have the standard seat that swivels slightly. It is not air ride, but I am comfortable in it. I occasionally swivel the seat when backing a mower over my stream 7' at a time for 300 yards or so. I rarely swivel when plowing, but if I were doing a long run with the rear blade or blower I would use it. The air ride is an expensive option, but likely worth it if you are not happy with the standard seat on your open station tractor. The only disadvantage is that I believe you loose the unattended PTO operation with the air ride seat. I would look into that if you plan on unattended PTO use. You may have to fab something up.

Thanks for the information. Your experience is similar to the post I replied to above.

The seat is the big issue. I'll talk to the dealer about options.

Thanks again.

 

[bdhsfz6]

I have a 2019 L6060 cab with 350 hrs on it. I live in Canada and the L6060 cabs up here come with front and rear work lights, defrosters, rear wiper and dual rear remotes as standard equipment. Here is my experience so far.

1. I also don't use a seat belt and don't have a problem seeing the loader at full height, that I recall but I don't lift things that high very often.

2. Mine came with a radio and I don't use it for a few reasons; 1) I prefer to listen to the tractor to see if I am working it too hard (mainly when using the snowblower), 2) we don't get radio stations where I live, and 3) it can be fairly loud in the cab depending on what work you are doing. You could always use a phone or other music player and ear buds if you really want to listen to music.

3. Mine came with the defrosters and a rear wiper. I use them often in the winter and they work very well.

4. Our temps range from +40C to -35C and I find the heater works great and usually end up wearing a T shirt in the winter. The AC works well too but not as good as the heater. Still plenty good enough that I have never thought it was inadequate. No noticeable power loss either.

5. I used to use a rear facing snow blower and found the rear visibility to be fine with the wiper and defrosters. I wouldn't want to do that operation without the defrosters though. I now have a rear inverted snow blower and the rear visibility is not a concern. I just drive forward and look forward. Waaaaaay better.

6. Mine came with the front and rear work lights. They are not very bright and I have thought about upgrading to LED's but I do do very little work in the dark and that is usually in the snow, so the lights are adequate in those conditions. I would image they would be inadequate working with a darker work environment.

7. I took a demo home and tried it for a day. I found the standard seat would not adjust very well and in the summer it would cause me to sweat. I opted for the air ride seat but it was expensive and not what I was expecting. I'm still glad I got the air ride seat but I preferred the non air ride Grammer seat that was in My Massey. One thing to note, if you get the air ride seat you can no longer use the PTO remotely, unless you put a heavy weight on the seat or bypass the safety switch. I bypassed the safety switch.

By the way, I've been running open station tractors before getting this one and I can tell you, getting a cab was one of the best moves I've made. My only regret is that I didn't do it sooner.
Picture yourself in the cab, blowing snow, wearing a T shirt in -25C weather.

Based on what I've heard so far, I'll skip the radio and go for the lights, defroster and wiper options. I can take the bright LED work lights off the old tractor before I trade it and replace the OEM's.

What to do about the seat is the big question. Without being able to try out the OEM, It's a tough call. I love the Grammar air ride on the old tractor but it doesn't swivel. I don't know how necessary that feature is on a cabbed model. I often wish I had that feature while using the rear mount snow thrower. As you said, I had to bypass the driver presence switch to use the PTO remotely on the old tractor. The same would have to be done on the new machine. As I mentioned in a previous post, I'll talk to the dealer about doing a seat swap.

I thought seriously about a cab on my previous two Kubotas but passed. I maintain 12 wooded acres and a cab would take a beating. I also mow up to the tree line bordering the 7 acres of lawn I groom. All together, there is about a mile of tree line that needs to be limbed up to make clearance for a cabbed tractor.

I now have the open station MX5800 to do the woods maintenance and will bite the bullet and do the limbing. As you say, I'll likely regret not having chosen a cab model sooner.

Thanks for your detailed input.

 

[MHarryE]

1. Bought L5740 is 2013, traded it for L6060 in 2016. I am only 5-8, high loader visibility is not a problem for me but I seldom need to go really high. Have glass panels in the cab roofs of my larger tractors and seldom move the shade to see the loader when it is raised to the max - I just don't go that high and need to observe.
2. Bought L5740 less radio and added excellent brand name automotive. It died within 2 years due to rough use. My Kubota dealer installed a rugged use radio but it is not Kubota. It is on all the time when I am in the cab. My wife cannot work with the distraction and always has it off.
3. In snow everything is covered with fog, ice, snow. AC on all the time even in below zero a must. All available rear defrost recommended if snow removal is your thing.
4. My tractor sits in a heated garage and my usual wear in below 0°F is sweatshirt and jeans. Heater does fine. A/C in hot temperatures does not keep cab as cool as I'd like but neither do the A/C units in my larger Kubota tractors (M7, M135GX). Appear to be designed for 30°C, not 40°C or warmer. No idea about power loss - my A/C is on year around.
5. I would think defrost available would be a must with a rear blower.
6. Get the work lights and change them with something else so the switches, wires and brackets are there. I think the wires are always there but you need to add switches and brackets. I replaced mine with LEDs.
7. My air seat is a disappointment, nothing like the M135GX and M7. From seat selectin being part of my engineering job, I think cab height is a reason. There is a ROPS requirement based on 90th percentile western person head clearance that limited our seat suspension distance. Seat driver too high and head is in danger in a roll over. However, once you buy the tractor, you are under no obligation. I have seen some people's Grammar seat installations that are much better than my Kubota supplied Grammar seat. I hated the mechanical seat on my L5740 so I ordered the air seat when I bought my L6060 expecting something like the M135GX I had at the time. I've been disappointed. Something you lose by getting the air seat is the ability to run the PTO without having a driver in the seat (I run grain augers with my tractor and I can't control grain flow at the same time I am sitting in the seat. Rather than bypass safety circuits, I am pretty good at selecting rocks that are heavy enough to simulate an operator yet light enough to handle.
This place was our weekend retreat from 2002 on. I immediately purchased a L3710 to replace the Farmall H dad turned over to me. So for over 10 years snow clearance was the L3710 and snowmobile seat. At least our first building included a heated garage with space for the L3710. When we retired early, it was only a few years before my wife suggested a cab tractor so we got the L5740 knowing I wanted the highest HP hydro - and Kubota (my first choice had been JD but I ended up with the Kubota L3710). L6060 replaced the L5740 with not high expectations for being an improvement but its been a fantastic upgrade for only 3 HP.

 

[bdhsfz6]

1. Bought L5740 is 2013, traded it for L6060 in 2016. I am only 5-8, high loader visibility is not a problem for me but I seldom need to go really high. Have glass panels in the cab roofs of my larger tractors and seldom move the shade to see the loader when it is raised to the max - I just don't go that high and need to observe.
2. Bought L5740 less radio and added excellent brand name automotive. It died within 2 years due to rough use. My Kubota dealer installed a rugged use radio but it is not Kubota. It is on all the time when I am in the cab. My wife cannot work with the distraction and always has it off.
3. In snow everything is covered with fog, ice, snow. AC on all the time even in below zero a must. All available rear defrost recommended if snow removal is your thing.
4. My tractor sits in a heated garage and my usual wear in below 0°F is sweatshirt and jeans. Heater does fine. A/C in hot temperatures does not keep cab as cool as I'd like but neither do the A/C units in my larger Kubota tractors (M7, M135GX). Appear to be designed for 30°C, not 40°C or warmer. No idea about power loss - my A/C is on year around.
5. I would think defrost available would be a must with a rear blower.
6. Get the work lights and change them with something else so the switches, wires and brackets are there. I think the wires are always there but you need to add switches and brackets. I replaced mine with LEDs.
7. My air seat is a disappointment, nothing like the M135GX and M7. From seat selectin being part of my engineering job, I think cab height is a reason. There is a ROPS requirement based on 90th percentile western person head clearance that limited our seat suspension distance. Seat driver too high and head is in danger in a roll over. However, once you buy the tractor, you are under no obligation. I have seen some people's Grammar seat installations that are much better than my Kubota supplied Grammar seat. I hated the mechanical seat on my L5740 so I ordered the air seat when I bought my L6060 expecting something like the M135GX I had at the time. I've been disappointed. Something you lose by getting the air seat is the ability to run the PTO without having a driver in the seat (I run grain augers with my tractor and I can't control grain flow at the same time I am sitting in the seat. Rather than bypass safety circuits, I am pretty good at selecting rocks that are heavy enough to simulate an operator yet light enough to handle.
This place was our weekend retreat from 2002 on. I immediately purchased a L3710 to replace the Farmall H dad turned over to me. So for over 10 years snow clearance was the L3710 and snowmobile seat. At least our first building included a heated garage with space for the L3710. When we retired early, it was only a few years before my wife suggested a cab tractor so we got the L5740 knowing I wanted the highest HP hydro - and Kubota (my first choice had been JD but I ended up with the Kubota L3710). L6060 replaced the L5740 with not high expectations for being an improvement but its been a fantastic upgrade for only 3 HP.

Thank you for your reply. Good information!

 

[Hilbilly]

If you've got a mile of tree trimming to do, you might want to consider getting a Lane Shark, Limb Ninja or something similar. I made one for trimming the brush along my driveway and along my fence lines. It turned out to be a huge time saver and it sure is nice to sit inside an air conditioned cab in summer time. No sweat involved.

Here is a link to a short video of the one I made that has hydraulic tilt built in. The video is not very good quality as it one of the first ones I made.
Homemade Front Mount Brush Mower with hydraulic tilt - YouTube

 

[buck12]

Based on what I've heard so far, I'll skip the radio and go for the lights, defroster and wiper options. I can take the bright LED work lights off the old tractor before I trade it and replace the OEM's.

What to do about the seat is the big question. Without being able to try out the OEM, It's a tough call. I love the Grammar air ride on the old tractor but it doesn't swivel. I don't know how necessary that feature is on a cabbed model. I often wish I had that feature while using the rear mount snow thrower. As you said, I had to bypass the driver presence switch to use the PTO remotely on the old tractor. The same would have to be done on the new machine. As I mentioned in a previous post, I'll talk to the dealer about doing a seat swap.

I thought seriously about a cab on my previous two Kubotas but passed. I maintain 12 wooded acres and a cab would take a beating. I also mow up to the tree line bordering the 7 acres of lawn I groom. All together, there is about a mile of tree line that needs to be limbed up to make clearance for a cabbed tractor.

I now have the open station MX5800 to do the woods maintenance and will bite the bullet and do the limbing. As you say, I'll likely regret not having chosen a cab model sooner.

Thanks for your detailed input.

I think you will be happy you choose a cab. When I bought my 5460 with cab I kept my open station Mahindra to maintain some wooded areas. After 8 months I wound up selling the Mahindra. I was not using it. I have given the pole saw a real workout limbing
trees and I have a lot to go but the cab has been worth the few drawbacks.

As to the seat, the Kubota standard seat is better than the seat on my Mahindra so I like it. I suspect if you are accustomed to a air ride seat you may not be happy with the standard seat.

 

[bdhsfz6]

If you've got a mile of tree trimming to do, you might want to consider getting a Lane Shark, Limb Ninja or something similar. I made one for trimming the brush along my driveway and along my fence lines. It turned out to be a huge time saver and it sure is nice to sit inside an air conditioned cab in summer time. No sweat involved.

Here is a link to a short video of the one I made that has hydraulic tilt built in. The video is not very good quality as it one of the first ones I made.
Homemade Front Mount Brush Mower with hydraulic tilt - YouTube

Nice build!

I actually have closer to 3 miles of tree line to maintain if I include the road leading to my house. I have a Maschio Giraffa ditch / bank mower which I use for brush & limbs up to 4" in diameter:

Maschio Giraffa Offset Flail Mower - YouTube

It's a 3 pt implement though and not as convenient as your FEL mount. The Maschio will only cut up to 60" off the ground, not high enough for cab clearance. Your rig looks like it would cut much higher but the majority of the limbs I need to cut are 6 - 10" in diameter. I doubt either one of these attachments would handle that.

 

[bdhsfz6]

I think you will be happy you choose a cab. When I bought my 5460 with cab I kept my open station Mahindra to maintain some wooded areas. After 8 months I wound up selling the Mahindra. I was not using it. I have given the pole saw a real workout limbing
trees and I have a lot to go but the cab has been worth the few drawbacks.

As to the seat, the Kubota standard seat is better than the seat on my Mahindra so I like it. I suspect if you are accustomed to a air ride seat you may not be happy with the standard seat.

I didn't like the OEM seat on my 2016 L6060 although it is far better than the back breaker seat on my MX5800. I don't know how different the deluxe swivel seat is on the newer cab model though. It's obviously different in some respects since it swivels. Some seem to like it and some don't. I could sit on one in the showroom but it's not the same as brush hogging through rocky pasture.

I also don't know if the optional $888 Kubota air seat is as good as the Grammar air ride I have now. Does the Kubota air seat swivel like the OEM?

 

[Hilbilly]

I like the offset flail mower and considered getting one of those but my concern was that the tractor cab would have to go through the branches, etc. before the mower and those branches would be dragging across the cab windows. If the fence lines were maintained often, that might not be an issue.

The swivel seat doesn't swivel very much and may not give you the movement you are looking for. I used to use a rear facing snowblower too and would have to look backwards for hours at a time. Although I did not get the Kubota swivel seat, I did sit in one at the dealers and try different positions, to judge if it was going to be a real advantage for snow blowing and I did not think it was much of an improvement over not having the swivel. The Kubota air ride seat does not swivel. I used the tractor that way for 1/2 a season before getting the inverted blower and did not find it any better or worse than the Massey seat, I had before, for that purpose. There were some things that got in the way of my feet or lower legs when I sat a certain way. Can't remember what it was but I don't think that the swivel seat would have made any difference with that issue.

I paid an extra $1,000 CAD for the air ride seat, mainly because it was cloth and I would not sweat as much in that seat and because the standard (deluxe) seat that I tried would not adjust enough to give a decent ride. I kept hitting bottom. I weigh 200 lbs and maybe that was too much for the seat but I believe it was rated for 250 lbs. The optional air ride seat is better in that regard but does not have a lot of travel. If you can find a way to put your Grammer seat in the Kubota I would do that. I think the problem is that the seat pan in the L6060 is quite high and would not allow for a taller seat, if that is what you have. The Grammer I had in the Massey had three height adjustments and rode like a Cadillac. It was not air ride but still a much more comfortable seat than the Kubota optional air ride seat, which I think is also a Grammer. I like that seat so much I wanted to put it the new Kubota but it was too high and would not work. In my opinion the optional air ride seat is better than the standard seat but it is not a $1,000 CAD upgrade. Having said that though, I would still get it again because it provides a better ride for my weight.