Land Pride grading scraper

[Pushing_Tin]

Try this link at ASC AGRI supply scroll all the way to the bottom. I have bought these and they are well made.

Thanks for the link, $74 is a bit spendy for a single tooth though.

 

[dex3361]

Thanks for the link, $74 is a bit spendy for a single tooth though.

I thought you were talking about the Box Blade rippers cause they are about $16 they are the last 4 Items on the page.

 

[Pushing_Tin]

Just an update for anybody else looking for a replacement shank/scarifier. I ordered this complete one for only $11 plus shipping. I was actually pretty happy with the quality given the low price.

BOX SHANK 18 4 HOLE W/ HEAT - Agri Supply

 

[Jaylegger]

I'm about ready to purchase one of the Land Pride grading scrapers but am as yet not completely decided whether it will be the GS1548 or GS1560 model. My tractor is a Massey GC2600, 25HP, 4WD, with 3pt lifting capacity of 1191 lbs at the ball ends. I've been using a 5 foot boxblade with 4 scarifiers to maintain two drives/roads without any issues to speak of.

I'd prefer to have the gs1560 to extend past the tire width and for the extra 74 pounds to aid the rippers digging into the hard packed gravel which experience with the the boxblade would indicate that is a benefit.

Here's a quick summary of present members who've purchased the graders and their tractors to aid my decision.

Newtattobob, BX1850, GS1548. No problems

Tom H BX2200, GS1548. No Problems "more than enough power"

RPRaymond BX2200, GS1548. No problems.

Granite Tractor, B-3030, GS1560. No problems.

PSdx B-3030, GS1560. No problems "just fine in 2WD".

BlacknTan B-7800, GS1560. No problems.

Mlevendo MF180, GS1548.


So despite common misgivings about power and traction issues using this type of grader with any given tractor there has yet to be anyone who's felt this implement has has proved too big/heavy. That info combined with my own experience using a 5 foot box with no issues has me thinking the GS1560 should not pose any sort of problem with my GC2600 tractor. Is there anyone here who has information that the 5 foot grader may prove too large for my tractor?

Thanks

PS. This thread should be moved to the Attachments forum.

 

[Tom_H]

I'm about ready to purchase one of the Land Pride grading scrapers but am as yet not completely decided whether it will be the GS1548 or GS1560 model. My tractor is a Massey GC2600, 25HP, 4WD, with 3pt lifting capacity of 1191 lbs at the ball ends. I've been using a 5 foot boxblade with 4 scarifiers to maintain two drives/roads without any issues to speak of.

I'd prefer to have the gs1560 to extend past the tire width and for the extra 74 pounds to aid the rippers digging into the hard packed gravel which experience with the the boxblade would indicate that is a benefit.

Here's a quick summary of present members who've purchased the graders and their tractors to aid my decision.

Newtattobob, BX1850, GS1548. No problems

Tom H BX2200, GS1548. No Problems "more than enough power"

RPRaymond BX2200, GS1548. No problems.

Granite Tractor, B-3030, GS1560. No problems.

PSdx B-3030, GS1560. No problems "just fine in 2WD".

BlacknTan B-7800, GS1560. No problems.

Mlevendo MF180, GS1548.


So despite common misgivings about power and traction issues using this type of grader with any given tractor there has yet to be anyone who's felt this implement has has proved too big/heavy. That info combined with my own experience using a 5 foot box with no issues has me thinking the GS1560 should not pose any sort of problem with my GC2600 tractor. Is there anyone here who has information that the 5 foot grader may prove too large for my tractor?

Thanks

PS. This thread should be moved to the Attachments forum.

I have the 48". Once or twice I have snagged, had to back up, and start again. I think the bigger model would be a stretch for my 22hp Kubota BX. I run with Ag tires. I don't know anything about your Massey. Do you have hydro tranny or straight gears? Which type tires do you have and what's their diameter. If you run hydro, is it 2 range or 3? If straight gears, do you have an extra low pulling gear? Can you ballast the rear of the tractor (not the scraper, but the rear of the tractor itself)? What does your tractor weigh?

If you have straight gears with X-low pulling gear, ag tires, and ballast for rear of tractor, you're fine. If you have 2 range hydro, turf tires, no ballast, I would worry. Can you give some details?

 

[Jaylegger]

I have the 48". Once or twice I have snagged, had to back up, and start again. I think the bigger model would be a stretch for my 22hp Kubota BX. I run with Ag tires. I don't know anything about your Massey. Do you have hydro tranny or straight gears? Which type tires do you have and what's their diameter. If you run hydro, is it 2 range or 3? If straight gears, do you have an extra low pulling gear? Can you ballast the rear of the tractor (not the scraper, but the rear of the tractor itself)? What does your tractor weigh?

If you have straight gears with X-low pulling gear, ag tires, and ballast for rear of tractor, you're fine. If you have 2 range hydro, turf tires, no ballast, I would worry. Can you give some details?

The Massey appears similar to the BX2200 with a few more horsepower. Hydro two speed, loaded turf tires rear/front 26/18. Outfitted with front loader and operator total weight in the 2200 pound range.

Using my 5 foot boxblade as a guide which differential lock and 4WD could manage in all road conditions coupled with a quote from someone in this thread saying that the the drag from the grader is less than his same sized boxblade I feel reasonably confident the 5 foot scraper would be fine but, and that's a big but, .... Speaking with the dealer today he doesn't seem to think the larger model would not pose a problem for the GC2600 but it's purely conjecture.

Tom, curious what conditions hung you up? Scarifiers down/up? Wet/dry? Snaggin large rocks or other?

Thanks.

 

[Tom_H]

Jay,

It was bigger rocks down in the roadbed (pit run) that snagged the ripper. If you are able to run a 5' BB, then a 5' grading scraper should not be a problem. Your turf tires won't get the bite ag tires would but having them loaded helps overcome that.

You may well be o.k. I don't feel qualified to promise you that you will, however. Maybe someone else can chime in here.

Good luck regardless of what you decide.

Tom

 

[Jaylegger]

Thanks for the info Tom. I'll pose the question another way, any here with the GS1548 and a sub-compact tractor wishes they had gone bigger? My biggest worry is weight on the rippers to ensure they break the surface without too many passes but I'd also like the unit to extend past my tires. Interestingly, when not using the rippers the 48" inch model actually provides more pounds per linear inch of blade on the ground therefore should dig a little better than the 60" model in that scenario.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

I don't have any of the size equipment that you guys are talking about. But I do have it in larger sizes and it all is industrial weight-quality pieces. I have a hard time understanding how your grader blades are easier or equal to pulling your boxblades. I know that with both sizes of my tractors, the grader blades are more of a load for the tractors than the box blades are. After all, your pulling 2 blades vs a single blade. Now my grader blades are about 40% heaver than my box blades and maybe that is the reason.

Just wondering. :confused3:

 

[Jaylegger]

I don't have any of the size equipment that you guys are talking about. But I do have it in larger sizes and it all is industrial weight-quality pieces. I have a hard time understanding how your grader blades are easier or equal to pulling your boxblades. I know that with both sizes of my tractors, the grader blades are more of a load for the tractors than the box blades are. After all, your pulling 2 blades vs a single blade. Now my grader blades are about 40% heaver than my box blades and maybe that is the reason.

Just wondering. :confused3:

That make sense, plus for many apps the boxblade is essentially dragging material across the ground whereas the grader blades are digging. When the scarifiers of the boxblade are digging in past 3 inches or so is the time I'm most inclined to lose traction. On hard packed gravel (in addition to making many assumptions) if a large portion of even one grader blade were biting in at only 1/2 inch that potentially is far more surface area therefore drag than 4 scarifiers at 3 inches.

I spoke to another dealer this morning to pick his brains and they feel the 48" would be the ideal unit.

 

[crazyal]

I've thought about making one without the teeth. I plan on getting a box blade, they of course have teeth. The box blade would be for doing major road work and the grader for finishing up and for times when I want to touch up the road.

I've noticed some people use a chain for a top link. I'm sure on flat ground it wouldn't be a problem but how well do graders transition things like from flat ground to the start of a hill? Is that why you would use a chain or leave a hydraulic top link in float? If so I would think that Hydrolink would be a good compromise if you didn't have a top n tilt.

 

[Jaylegger]

Well after calling Land Pride directly today the plot thickens somewhat and it becomes clear the only to definitively answer my 60" question is to buy one and risk being under tractor-ed. After speaking with Land Pride and discussing my tractor and usage they feel the 60" would work. The reasoning being that the tractor can easily lift the attachment and unless I'm scraping clayish type material I should have enough power/traction. This info coupled with info gained here from actual users has me at odds though, perhaps a flip of a coin is in order.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

The 60" unit may work for you, sort of depends on your circumstances and would be great if it did indeed work. Get the 48" unit and your sure that you have a unit that will work for you. Unfortunately without actually using one at your place, it would be a gamble to get the 60" unit.

 

[Jaylegger]

The 60" unit may work for you, sort of depends on your circumstances and would be great if it did indeed work. Get the 48" unit and your sure that you have a unit that will work for you. Unfortunately without actually using one at your place, it would be a gamble to get the 60" unit.

Agreed, but I'm stuck on the 5' width due to this being the size of the boxblade I've been using to grade two roads and though only a small difference in size not only will the 48" require more passes the extra width theoretically should provide smoother more consistent transition side to side. Perhaps I can negotiate an out with the dealer on the chance I need the smaller one. I also have to admit that after watching the youtube video of the GS1548 bouncing around behind the Kubota sub-compact I'm convinced a heavy unit is needed.

YouTube - Land Pride GS1548 Grading Scraper on a Kubota BX Tractor

 

[brandoro]

Agreed, but I'm stuck on the 5' width due to this being the size of the boxblade I've been using to grade two roads and though only a small difference in size not only will the 48" require more passes the extra width theoretically should provide smoother more consistent transition side to side. Perhaps I can negotiate an out with the dealer on the chance I need the smaller one. I also have to admit that after watching the youtube video of the GS1548 bouncing around behind the Kubota sub-compact I'm convinced a heavy unit is needed.

YouTube - Land Pride GS1548 Grading Scraper on a Kubota BX Tractor

Did you notice that in the last third of the video he had the scarifiers raised and the unit pulled much more smoothly. I think the area you were trying to smooth out would have to be horribly rough before you would need the scarifiers. I have actually never used the scarifiers on my GS, maybe I should try them sometime to see how they work. I find the GS does a great job just with the two blades. I often pull mine in 2 WD with no problems at all and extend the hydraulic top link to use one blade barely skimming the surface to make that last smoothing pass.
The blades are adjustable so you can reduce the cut they are taking should you have traction issues. I don't think you will.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

Agreed, but I'm stuck on the 5' width due to this being the size of the boxblade I've been using to grade two roads and though only a small difference in size not only will the 48" require more passes the extra width theoretically should provide smoother more consistent transition side to side. Perhaps I can negotiate an out with the dealer on the chance I need the smaller one. I also have to admit that after watching the youtube video of the GS1548 bouncing around behind the Kubota sub-compact I'm convinced a heavy unit is needed.

YouTube - Land Pride GS1548 Grading Scraper on a Kubota BX Tractor

Here's my 5 footer, if the ground is right, it will stop my 5000lb tractor.

 

[Jaylegger]

Did you notice that in the last third of the video he had the scarifiers raised and the unit pulled much more smoothly. I think the area you were trying to smooth out would have to be horribly rough before you would need the scarifiers. I have actually never used the scarifiers on my GS, maybe I should try them sometime to see how they work. I find the GS does a great job just with the two blades. I often pull mine in 2 WD with no problems at all and extend the hydraulic top link to use one blade barely skimming the surface to make that last smoothing pass.
The blades are adjustable so you can reduce the cut they are taking should you have traction issues. I don't think you will.

I did noticed the difference with scarifiers down then raised, the roads I grade get very compact and hard and I sometimes have difficulty getting the teeth to dig in on my boxblade therefore I feel they'll be necessary on the grader/scraper otherwise the blades will simply bounce over the terrain. I'm hoping the scarifiers are not needed due to not wanting to disturb anymore gravel than necessary though. My boxblade did an outstanding and beautifully smooth job on the roads but after 12 or so gradings under my belt it's limitations are evident.

Thanks for the input

 

[Jaylegger]

Here's my 5 footer, if the ground is right, it will stop my 5000lb tractor.

I've been reading many of your posts on the topic and have attached a high weighting to them. Man that 5 footer looks huge. I wonder how the sandy roads, it appears you work on, effect the grader size to traction ratio.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

I've been reading many of your posts on the topic and have attached a high weighting to them. Man that 5 footer looks huge. I wonder how the sandy roads, it appears you work on, effect the grader size to traction ratio.

My roads are mainly DG. (decomposed granite) During the summer when they are rock hard, is the only time that the grader noticeably works how they are said to work, where you can see the material moving sideways along the blades. When the ground has about any moisture in it, the blades cut enough the the majority of the material is cut and flows up and over the blades. I'm sure that some moves sideways, but there is so much being cut that it is not noticeable to just look at it flowing backwards. If you have noticed in some of my pictures, the ground will actually build up in the box to where it will get on the cross members. On my 5 footer that is 18" and on my 7 footer that is 22". When there is that much dirt in the box, there is a LOT of dirt being moved and often the box will have to be lifted a few inches to allow for more material to flow out. It just happens that when the ground is in those damp conditions is the best time to grade the road. The ground repacks very well vs grading when the ground is bone dry and hard.

I would think that in my conditions when I grade, (usually damp) that I would have the best traction available. Can't say 100% about other conditions because I have only used the grader at my place. And yes my graders are a bit bigger than most of the ones that you see here on TBN or what most dealers have.

 

[Dozernut]

Jaylegger
I have the Landpride GS1560. I can pull it with my B2630 (26hp) until it loads up with damp material, this is with the teeth up, then it loses traction and won't pull any further. I have found that the GS1560 works behind my L4610 (50hp) tractor just fine. The GS1560 is going to be too much for your Massey, if you don't have a larger tractor to hook it up to, go with the 48".