Landscape Rake Build

[RedDirt]

AND THE WINNER IS......

Absolutely perfect Larry, better get a patent on that quickly!

Loved the entire post. Thanks. Can't wait to see it working.

 

[SkunkWerX]

Very Very Nice!

Without the cylinders it could double as a kiddie ride!!
"Hey kid watch your head as it passes under the A-arm!"

Truly a work of art!

.

 

[Renze]

i'll have a look what bearings of that size cost me, here in Holland from an industrial supplier. We dont have anything like surplus store, but when buying on the firm i work for, i at least get 40% rebate on bearings.

I share your idea about putting the swing cylinder in a parallellogram so it will maintain the blade angle during side shift. ( i want to build a grader blade)
It will be a great feature when levelling farmland, to pull the ridge of the first plough furrow from under a fencerow ( 4" posts every 4 yard).

The only thing i'd want to change, is to weld on some cams of solid steel to hold the bearing in place. With your tractor, these 4 bolts will hold, but if i hook it to the allmost 4 ton weighing mfwd 5245 with loader, the forces are a bit more

First i need to finish the road sweep rebuild. I havent taken any pictures yet, but this week i'll start a thread.
Thinking back, i think some of you would have been interested in photos of the brake press at work, but i didnt take pictures untill now

 

[J_J]

Larry, You did good. Congratulations on a job well done, even to the point of taking pictures, and building the anvil for me, and all done in a timely manner. You probably have the one and only landscape rake of this design.

Are you making this unit to also convert to a landscape grader?

 

[bob_wood]

Larry,

When you get this thing all done and painted up, are you really gonna put it in the Dirt ??

Bob


P.S.

It sure is lookin good !

 

[GuglioLS]

Absolutely fantastic Larry.
Everything works great and fits perfectly. Guess it's time to bolt on the tines and give it a rip now, eh?

Thank you Rob,
Yea, time to bolt on tines -
First I inserted 3/8" grade 8 bolts and extra thick (1/4") flat washers, then proceeded to attach tines with nuts and lock washers. All 41 of those tines lined up quite nicely:

That looks and works great!
How about some pictures of your Redneck Ingenuity...err...Yankee Ingenuity powder coating oven?

Thank you MJ,
I figured everyone had seen enough cutting, milling, drilling, and weed burning to heat parts for powder coating. Saturday was my last day to make any serious progress before some family time and a work road trip, so I didn't stop to take many pictures.

AND THE WINNER IS......
Absolutely perfect Larry, better get a patent on that quickly!
Loved the entire post. Thanks. Can't wait to see it working.

Very Very Nice!
.......Truly a work of art!

Hey RedDirt, SkunkWerx thanks for the kind words. I like that thumbs up photo.

.....snip.....I share your idea about putting the swing cylinder in a parallellogram so it will maintain the blade angle during side shift.....snip....

that feature works great, I hope you find the bearings you seek at a reasonable price. And I look forward to seeing more of your projects come to life. I also want to thank you again for the metal bending tip with your rule of thumb to make the bend points ~ 7-8 times as wide as the steel is thick - nice trick there Renze.

Larry, You did good. Congratulations on a job well done, even to the point of taking pictures, and building the anvil for me, and all done in a timely manner. You probably have the one and only landscape rake of this design.
Are you making this unit to also convert to a landscape grader?

Hi J_J,
Thank you - I heat treated your anvil knife blade,today, it's packed and ready to ship out to you tomorrow morning, I will drop it off as I start my days journey. I am considering the idea of adding a retractable cutting blade at a later date. Here are pics of your anvil being heat treated.:

Larry,
When you get this thing all done and painted up, are you really gonna put it in the Dirt ??
Bob
P.S.
It sure is lookin good !

LOL yea dragging it through the dirt seem kind of primitive, but what else could I do with it?

Thanks for all the wonderful replies guys.
Please see my next post......


Larry

 

[GuglioLS]

Below is a video demonstrating a third feature (besides the swing and angle).
I was keeping this secret for a BIG SURPRISE ending. Did anyone realize my original design concept incorporated that feature? Please check out the video to see what I'm talking about:





I'll be able to try it out as soon as the mud dries up, probably when I get back from a week long road trip from my day job.


Larry

 

[Runner]

OH, crap! I just realized, it's not iMatch compatible!

Just kidding. It's a work of art and an inspiration for me to go out and 'try' and build something.

Thanks.

 

[SkunkWerX]

quote: Did anyone realize my original design concept incorporated that feature?

I wondered why you were going with that long cylinder!??!
Now it makes perfect sense!

That is a great feature, to be able to quickly spin it around and push a pile of accumulated rake debris out of the way. Good thinking!

 

[mjncad]

What are you going to build for an encore Larry?

 

[RedDirt]

Very, very cool!

I gotta ask. What are the indexing plates for. They don't seem to have a function. Manual pin if you loose hydraulics? Manual adjustment designed prior to designing for hydraulics? I don't recall mention of them in the build post, maybe I missed it.

 

[J_J]

Very, very cool!

I gotta ask. What are the indexing plates for. They don't seem to have a function. Manual pin if you loose hydraulics? Manual adjustment designed prior to designing for hydraulics? I don't recall mention of them in the build post, maybe I missed it.

In the very first post, Larry said it would be manually pinned or hydraulically controlled.

 

[EddieWalker]

Larry,

Very impressive. I have high expectations for your projects, and you suprised me by exceeding those expectations!!!!!

Eddie

 

[GuglioLS]

OH, crap! I just realized, it's not iMatch compatible!
Just kidding. It's a work of art and an inspiration for me to go out and 'try' and build something.
Thanks.

Thanks Runner,
Not sure if it's iMatch compatible or not, if it's not - good for me, bad for you HaHaHa

quote: Did anyone realize my original design concept incorporated that feature?
I wondered why you were going with that long cylinder!??!
Now it makes perfect sense!
That is a great feature, to be able to quickly spin it around and push a pile of accumulated rake debris out of the way. Good thinking!

Thanks for your comments SkunkWerX - The length of that windrow angle / rotate cylinder was chosen in order to get a true parallelogram, (anchor points for the cylinder have 8" of offset, but parallel to the swing and swivel points on the boom) This allows the tines to stay at right angles to the line of pull no matter what the swing offset position is. I consider the length of that cylinder to be correct, as opposed to being "long".

What are you going to build for an encore Larry?

What? the rake is not good enough for you? Sheesh,

Very, very cool!
I gotta ask. What are the indexing plates for. They don't seem to have a function. Manual pin if you loose hydraulics? Manual adjustment designed prior to designing for hydraulics? I don't recall mention of them in the build post, maybe I missed it.

Thank you RedDirt, I appreciate your comments and your question.
In addition to what J.J. answered for me, Since I was designing from scratch, I thought why not have a universal design that anyone could use, but more importantly, the plates serve as support for all that cantilevered weight so that it does not all rest on the king pins. The holes in them also serve as a guide to know what exact angular position it's set to and aided in construction. With your keen eye, you may have noticed there are two index plates stacked on top of each other at the tine bar end. That was done in order to get clearance between the tops of the cylinder connecting pin heads and the boom when the bar is rotated completely underneath the boom.

Larry,
Very impressive. I have high expectations for your projects, and you suprised me by exceeding those expectations!!!!!
Eddie

Thank you Eddie,
The way this turned out, I surprised myself as well. When I stuck my neck out and started posting this project, I then realized the whole TBN community was watching, so it better be good, or else.


Larry

 

[jimgerken]

360 degree rotation ??? Nope, I didnt see that one coming. Guess I gotta go back to work on mine. Really, that thing is a work of art.

 

[Renze]

I was keeping this secret for a BIG SURPRISE ending. Did anyone realize my original design concept incorporated that feature?

No i didnt... but here is see the need to put those index plates to use: If you push a big pile of trash with this cylinder on its dead point, you will likely damage something due to the high forces on the mounts and cylinder.

For normal use the cylinder will hold, but it will give trouble when used near this dead point...

 

[J_J]

No i didnt... but here is see the need to put those index plates to use: If you push a big pile of trash with this cylinder on its dead point, you will likely damage something due to the high forces on the mounts and cylinder.

For normal use the cylinder will hold, but it will give trouble when used near this dead point...

Did you notice the size of the spindle pin, and the bearings. That is pretty hefty stock, and the cylinder is just sitting there at the dead spot. It should hold in that spot especially if the system has load checks.

 

[Nickahawk]

GuglioLS, your landscape rake is looking pretty professional. You should start a little business of selling the plasma cut pieces!

 

[tlbuser]

Larry, you may be setting the bar a tad high for the rest of us to follow Great project, photos and storyline. Now for the dumb question.........How come you just didn't make the 360 blade interchangeable with a rake or a combo unit

 

[Renze]

Did you notice the size of the spindle pin, and the bearings. That is pretty hefty stock, and the cylinder is just sitting there at the dead spot. It should hold in that spot especially if the system has load checks.

Yes i noticed: While the bolts that hold the cylinder mounting brackets starts to shear off, the kingpin and bearings will still be laughing in your face, with that load

Check valves arent designed to hold against that pressure. they are designed to hold a load when a hose bursts, or prevent dropping the load when the spool valve is leaking. near the dead point, with check valves, the forces in the cylinder can get so high (5 times operating pressure or more) that they expand the cylinder tube, and then leak internally along the piston seal.