Landscaping tasks, looking at a BX24, will it be enough? Pictures included!

[Glowplug]

Maybe a smaller tractor won't meet your needs. That's why they make different sizes.

That may be the best line in this whole thread! Everyone has seemed to have gotten to a point of either putting down the BX24 on this thread or bragging about it's (almost unbelievable) capabilities. Tractors do come in many different sizes. We can try to put them into "classes" and base our decisions on which tractor we need by the normal application duties of that class but it's not always that easy.

I don't think they are going to discontinue all models of all tractors except the BX24 because it can do anything. You can't pull a 60 foot harvester behind it or an 8-bottom plow. But they make the BX24 for a reason and there is a big market for it. There's also a market for a New Holland TJ530 with 530hp, 94gpm hydraulics, weight of 20,000#, and a 3ph lift capacity of 43,000#. Compare that to a BX24 with 23hp, 6.3gpm hydraulics, weight of less than 1600#, and a 661# 3ph lift capacity. Both of these machines are called "tractors". But as you can see, these are two totally different animals on opposite ends of the spectrum. There's a reason there is such a huge difference between these two tractors on each end of the tractor spectrum. It's because there's an infinite number of tractor buyers with an infinite number of tractor tasks and applications which vary in magnitude greatly. Even for the same task a tractor that works well for one may not be right for another. I personally favor bigger but would maybe sacrifice the nimbleness of a tiny tractor.

Just my thoughts and 2-cents.

 

[Sully2]

... If its pushin' over all your trees and you're not willing to "work around the 10% of the time that the machine is not the optimal size", perhaps you should consider upgrading to a Cat D-7. I'm sure you've run into at least one tree the Mighty B couldn't handle.

Like I said, real world, what percentage of the time are you pushing or lifting as much as your tractor will handle? I'm willing to move 4 bags of fertilizer once a year to avoid the extra cost and inconvenience of the larger tractor. I wanted the smaller machine due to my intended usage. Maybe a smaller tractor won't meet your needs. That's why they make different sizes.

Im not pushing over "ALL" my trees...and BTW...the "mighty B" isnt mighty at all...its just MORE powerful and has MORE traction and has MORE lift capability than a BX does. And IF Id have wanted to unload skids I wouldnt have bought any tractor at all..and would have paid the $$ and had it all done for me.

Your ripping on the wrong guy dude..because I LIKE the BX size tractors...but since I could only afford ONE..I had to go with the biggest I could get to MAKE SURE I had enough. Even the Kubota salesman I bought from was here to look at this woods and he even told me straight out..Id lose traction with the smaller one and would never get them shoved over. For MY job..Id have lost my rump buyng one.

And as I stated ..no one is going to be POSITIVE the smaller one will do this mans job until he is into it for awhile..then he will know one way or the other.

A "BX" is NOT a "B". A "B" is NOT a "L" series and the "L;s" are not M series tractors...so your statement that
If..yadda,yadda, yadda" is flat WRONG!

 

[Sully2]

That may be the best line in this whole thread! Everyone has seemed to have gotten to a point of either putting down the BX24 on this thread or bragging about it's (almost unbelievable) capabilities. Tractors do come in many different sizes. We can try to put them into "classes" and base our decisions on which tractor we need by the normal application duties of that class but it's not always that easy.

I don't think they are going to discontinue all models of all tractors except the BX24 because it can do anything. You can't pull a 60 foot harvester behind it or an 8-bottom plow. But they make the BX24 for a reason and there is a big market for it. There's also a market for a New Holland TJ530 with 530hp, 94gpm hydraulics, weight of 20,000#, and a 3ph lift capacity of 43,000#. Compare that to a BX24 with 23hp, 6.3gpm hydraulics, weight of less than 1600#, and a 661# 3ph lift capacity. Both of these machines are called "tractors". But as you can see, these are two totally different animals on opposite ends of the spectrum. There's a reason there is such a huge difference between these two tractors on each end of the tractor spectrum. It's because there's an infinite number of tractor buyers with an infinite number of tractor tasks and applications which vary in magnitude greatly. Even for the same task a tractor that works well for one may not be right for another. I personally favor bigger but would maybe sacrifice the nimbleness of a tiny tractor.

Just my thoughts and 2-cents.

Ive never made any attempt to "put down" a BX model..personally I like them. Its when people attempt to substiante THEIR choice and say "It can do this and that..etc...anything that a B series can"..and thats total BS! Its like I was saying my B series can do anything a Grand L 3130 can? IT CANT..simple as that!

I dont have to substiante MY purchase..its fits ME like a glove...and THEIR purchase of a BX model might do the same for them..but dont slide them side by side and start comparing them and saying one can do everthing the other can

 

[Glowplug]

Ive never made any attempt to "put down" a BX model..personally I like them. Its when people attempt to substiante THEIR choice and say "It can do this and that..etc...anything that a B series can"..and thats total BS! Its like I was saying my B series can do anything a Grand L 3130 can? IT CANT..simple as that!

I dont have to substiante MY purchase..its fits ME like a glove...and THEIR purchase of a BX model might do the same for them..but dont slide them side by side and start comparing them and saying one can do everthing the other can

Totally agree with absolutely everything you just said.
BTW, I didn't mean that you in particular were trying to put down the BX models.
Don't pop an aneurysm dude: ----->

 

[Ken_CT]

Pretty much anything you can do with a BX, B, L, or other tractor you can do with a shovel, wheelbarrow, pick, ax etc. It's just going to take a little longer. I'm wonder what size tractor they used to build the pyramids.

 

[TomKioti]

This whole subject lived in another thread that the original poster started elsewhere. Reading this is kind of like Deja Vu all over again. In the other thread I commented that with 8+ acres and a lot of clearing of trees and top work I felt the BX would do the job but a compact vs. a sub would probably be the way to go. I made that determination based soley on the tasks that were stated by the original poster. I also said the BX line were a fine sub compact but for the scope of work stated I suggested the B2630/3030 or another brand of equal weight and capability and HP. I also said the wisdom of buying a little bigger would more than likely NOT be regretted and I stand by that logic. One last thing... I also said that if his tractor time was limited by a busy family life then a larger tractor with more capability and capacity would finish the job faster. I probably didn't use those exact words but you get the idea. No rips, drags, flames, daggers, freakouts or bad vibes intended.

Just my obversations and thoughts... again Good luck in your decision!

 

[Glowplug]

I'm sorry, but I just had to re-post the specs on the difference between a Kubota BX24 and a New Holland TJ530 again. I mainly wanted to look at them myself in a table format. I know it's not really related to the purpose of this thread; but it does show the extreme difference in available tractors. I guess this demonstrates that there is no "right" tractor for any one job or any one person for that matter. There's a whole range of available tractors between these two extremes.

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I'm not so sure the BX would be able to get done what the TJ can do (even if it took a little longer). I could not imagine having a tractor with a 300 gal fuel tank and a 3ph lift capacity of 10 tons. However, on the same token, I could not imagine having a tractor with a 3ph lift capacity of only 661 lbs. either. I wouldn't be able to do any plowing or heavy grading. But that's just me. Everyone's different; as are tractors!

 

[Volfandt]

I could not imagine having a tractor with a 3ph lift capacity of only 661 lbs. either.

According to my WSM, BX23 has a lower link end max loading weight of 550kg / 1210lbs. The lower link end max loading weight is referenced as the "WO" measurement and "WO" is defined as the lower link end max hydraulic lifting capacity.
ahem, Thats about double the above quoted capacity

My old rule of thumb,
If mowing is priority #1 and ground engagement/material handling is #2 then the BX is for you.

If ground engagement/material handling is priority #1 and mowing is #2 then the B is for you.

All the other just seems to muck it up

Volfandt

 

[Glowplug]

According to my WSM, BX23 has a lower link end max loading weight of 550kg / 1210lbs. The lower link end max loading weight is referenced as the "WO" measurement and "WO" is defined as the lower link end max hydraulic lifting capacity.
ahem, Thats about double the above quoted capacity

My old rule of thumb,
If mowing is priority #1 and ground engagement/material handling is #2 then the BX is for you.

If ground engagement/material handling is priority #1 and mowing is #2 then the B is for you.

All the other just seems to muck it up

Volfandt

That's a really good rule of thumb. I like it.
The lift capacities that I have quoted are as rated @ 24 inches from the LP in both tractors.

 

[Sully2]

My old rule of thumb,
If mowing is priority #1 and ground engagement/material handling is #2 then the BX is for you.
If ground engagement/material handling is priority #1 and mowing is #2 then the B is for you.
All the other just seems to muck it up

Volfandt

I never actually thought of it in that manner...but thats right inline with WHY I made my own decision! Mowing for me is so far down the list..I dont even have a mower deck!!!!