Late last night

[murphy1244]

I do.

Ditto and the mask is a Carhart.

 

[ovrszd]

Only in a situation where a DEADLY weapon is present in the hands of someone who INTENDS to use it, IMMEDIATELY, against ME is a deadly force response necessary because I am in fear of my life.

One cannot know what they would do until presented with the actual situation and have it play out.

I agree with all you've said. The statement above should give you pause. By the time you've assessed this, it's all over, if the assailant is truly serious in their intent.

So you are left with a choice. Act quicker and risk an error in the true intent. Or act later, likely after shots have been fired, in your direction.

Tough call. Any time I've been shot at I've always assumed the shooter was an expert marksman. So my firing in response is a bit late if the former is true.

Tough call and one that's made daily by those that guard our safety.

 

[Mace Canute]

So tell us...what do robbers say instead of "Freeze"....something like: "This is a stickup" or "Hand over the money and nobody gets hurt" or some other witty choice of words....???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU0SwYK0vco

 

[Looking4new]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU0SwYK0vco

Polite fellow. Even said 'please'.

 

[Citydude]

Do you think that Wyoming's population of 563,626 (as of 2012) largely rural folks translates well all over the country in terms of exposure to guns and home training for gun safety? I don't think so. Beginning with Milwaukee, WI, there are 31 US cities with more population than the entire State of Wyoming--and they lead vastly different lives. I think there are many first-time gun owners who really need that training to be safe themselves, for the rest of us to be safe, and for them to be somewhat proficient.

Well, umm, were not all rural here in Wyoming Dave. For instance, I live in a community of around 30,000 people. Of those 30,000, the majority work in mining, oil & gas and uranium as well as two large power plants or services that support these enterprises. 95% or more of those people came from out of state from around the nation so I guess you could call the community a melting pot. With that, we live much like others in large cities. We even have a Walmart . So, just using this community as a sampling of having the permits to carry a weapon laws repealed, I'd say I was pleasantly surprised there wasn't an increase of incidents related to the use of guns. Crime is alive and well here as well. Given that, gun related crime has not increased. Knock on wood.....BTW, I'm a Wyoming native, grew up in a rural community so I can understand how you view Wyoming in general. Thanks for the complement!

 

[TomSeller]

All those reading this thread that do not practice as John has stated, or better yet, that have not had that long talk with themselves, take notice. You might be a bigger danger to society than the person who caused you to reveal your weapon.
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Me thinks you are right

 

[texasjohn]

Capability for deadly force exists, intent not established, immediacy not established, no shot, no exposure of fire arm, hand in pocket ready to draw, remain mostly concealed and await further events. It will take only a second or two for things to become more clear. Call 911 and leave phone on so events are recorded and dispatcher can be informed of number of people and situation as it unfolds, maybe put phone in shirt pocket, leaving hands free for weapon if necessity arises.

 

[JamesHW]

Funny story, I was in a store recently and a teenager behind me yelled FREEZE! Turned out he had just lost a contact lens and was yelling at his two friends walking up behind him.

Now if he had yelled "REACH FOR THE SKY" I would have beat him to death with a frozen turkey.

 

[TomSeller]

Funny story, I was in a store recently and a teenager behind me yelled FREEZE! Turned out he had just lost a contact lens and was yelling at his two friends walking up behind him.

And you did not shoot him?

 

[texasjohn]

Funny story, I was in a store recently and a teenager behind me yelled FREEZE! Turned out he had just lost a contact lens and was yelling at his two friends walking up behind him.

Now if he had yelled "REACH FOR THE SKY" I would have beat him to death with a frozen turkey.

Dude was out of contact, at his age, he should know to text his buddies to get their attention. :shocked: