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[brin]

I have question to those of you familiar with Coyotes....They are new to our area or at least I have not seen any of them until yesterday....maybe, and here is the question...

Yesterday I was in my home office which is in the front of the house and I was looking out the window and saw (2) Dogs or Coyotes in a trot going down our road....Now they were identical, as if perfect twins...same color a redish brown with bushy tail about the size of a fox or a little bigger...but we have fox here and they were not foxes...I am fairly sure of that...it was mid day and again they were exact twins....I myself , other than at a dog breeders, have never seen exact twin dogs together out in the wild so that makes me wonder if what I saw was a pair of coyotes....What do you guys think ?

 

[RobertBrown]

What do you guys think ?

Get your 22-250 and a mouth squealer and see if you can get both.:laughing::thumbsup:

Most coyotes look alike. If they are siblings they could be twins I suppose. It wouldn't surprise me. I really don't know how often that happens.
Is that what your asking? weather they are twins or not?

 

[/pine]

I have question to those of you familiar with Coyotes....They are new to our area or at least I have not seen any of them until yesterday....maybe, and here is the question...

Yesterday I was in my home office which is in the front of the house and I was looking out the window and saw (2) Dogs or Coyotes in a trot going down our road....Now they were identical, as if perfect twins...same color a redish brown with bushy tail about the size of a fox or a little bigger...but we have fox here and they were not foxes...I am fairly sure of that...it was mid day and again they were exact twins....I myself , other than at a dog breeders, have never seen exact twin dogs together out in the wild so that makes me wonder if what I saw was a pair of coyotes....What do you guys think ?

brin, If I recall you are not that far from where I am in GA (Rabun Co.)

Last summer we started hearing reports of 'Red Wolves' being in the area ...many had seen a pack of at least 4 wolves thinking they were coyotes until one was killed and positively identified...
...The district ranger said that they have worked their way south from the where they were released in the Great Smoky National Park and have proliferated.

 

[brin]

Get your 22-250 and a mouth squealer and see if you can get both.:laughing::thumbsup:

Most coyotes look alike. If they are siblings they could be twins I suppose. It wouldn't surprise me. I really don't know how often that happens.
Is that what your asking? weather they are twins or not?

Robert, I don't know if they were twins but they looked identical and may well have been the Red Wolves like Pine has posted about...he lives not far from me....thanks.

brin, If I recall you are not that far from where I am in GA (Rabun Co.)

Last summer we started hearing reports of 'Red Wolves' being in the area ...many had seen a pack of at least 4 wolves thinking they were coyotes until one was killed and positively identified...
...The district ranger said that they have worked their way south from the where they were released in the Great Smoky National Park and have proliferated.

Pine...that may well have been what I saw, what struck me is they did not run or walk like dogs do...they had a gait to them almost like a racking horse, that is why I called it a trot, and it was a purposeful trot...they were going somewhere - right down the road one following the other in lock step close behind...It worries me because our dog is outside a lot and he is a Brittany and about the same size as these critters were...45 or 50 lbs....Thanks for the picture...I just wonder why they were so bold to trot right down the country road like that...makes me think Rabbies...?? I just know I have never seen two identical domestic dogs anywhere except a litter of pups at a breeder...

 

[/pine]

that may well have been what I saw, what struck me is they did not run or walk like dogs do...they had a gait to them almost like a racking horse, that is why I called it a trot, and it was a purposeful trot.

This is the same thing I witnessed...there was one in the yard just off the porch and when I opened the slider to take a picture (cell phone was all I could grab and the picture did not come out)...but it did turn and run off like you said...I thought it ran more like a deer than a dog...definitely a "different" gait than a k9...

 

[RobertBrown]

brin, If I recall you are not that far from where I am in GA (Rabun Co.)

Last summer we started hearing reports of 'Red Wolves' being in the area ...many had seen a pack of at least 4 wolves thinking they were coyotes until one was killed and positively identified...
...The district ranger said that they have worked their way south from the where they were released in the Great Smoky National Park and have proliferated.

Don't shoot the wolf.

 

[westcliffe01]

Brin, your description is typical for coyotes. I have never seen them walk or stop yet on the sheep farm where I hunt them. They are always going at a steady trot with a definite purpose in mind.

They are very smart, so I will shoot if I have a very good chance of nailing them, else I leave them alone. They get educated very fast and change/adapt their behavior. So while they are bold and carefree you need to give them everything you got... If you spook them, they will first avoid the area you spooked them at, come back at night or move only from cover to cover until they know that the coast is clear.

I wounded 1 of a pair that was moving in for an attack on the sheep very similar to what you described. It was at about 250 yards. The one I shot at ran north onto a neighbors property where I do not have permission to follow. The male (I assume, from his behavior) ran south and stopped atop a hill at about 350 yards and my second shot must have showered him with dirt since I didn't hold high enough (14" drop on the 55gr Vmax bullet at that range with a 250 yd zero).

The female never returned, so I believe she died on the neighbors property. The male can be heard howling for a mate every now and then. He has never entered the "draw" where the female was shot during daylight hours again. I have seen him approaching the barn from the South right before dawn where there is several hundred yards of tangled undergrowth for him to retreat into, which is of course what he does. What has seemed to have the most impact with the male has been "marking" my territory "wolf style" when I do the daily boundary fence check. Since I started that, I have never seen his tracks again. Of course we have not had much snow, so it is also difficult to track, but he also has not been heard in 2 weeks. The farmer has not lost any more sheep, so he is not too concerned with my lack of coyote fur to show for my efforts...

 

[brin]

Thanks westcliffe01 - So it is very safe for me to believe at this point, as I do, that I did not see 2 identical domestic dogs....I will be on the watch from now on with my r**** at the ready....thanks for the input...that helps confirm my suspicion.

 

[/pine]

Don't shoot the wolf.

Before the reports of the Red Wolves being in the area...we were hearing lots of "coyote" sitings...we had a large increase of mallard ducks along the river at the same time and we suspected the ducks were attracting them...one neighbor watched a wolf climb out on the rocks in the river just waiting and licking his chops...
The sitings were so frequent I actually purchased a new .22 WMR r****/scope...and was planning on baiting them (coyotes) in...However...after getting a very good,close look at the wolf...(a very handsome animal) nothing like the mangy appearance of most coyotes...I have decided not to shoot them.:thumbsup:

 

[brin]

Before the reports of the Red Wolves being in the area...we were hearing lots of "coyote" sitings...we had a large increase of mallard ducks along the river at the same time and we suspected the ducks were attracting them...one neighbor watched a wolf climb out on the rocks in the river just waiting and licking his chops...
The sitings were so frequent I actually purchased a new .22 WMR r****/scope...and was planning on baiting them (coyotes) in...However...after getting a very good,close look at the wolf...(a very handsome animal) nothing like the mangy appearance of most coyotes...I have decided not to shoot them.:thumbsup:

Ok Pine...these must have been Red Wolves then because they were far from mangy...They were both handsome animals as you have said...they glistened..no collars by the way...so again, I am convinced they were not K -9's and since they were not the least bit mangy and sure not foxes...then Wolf it is....if they mess with my Dog...they will ride to glory..