LEMONS!

[MESSMAKER]

My Cub Cadet 2544 is really disappointing. It is 3 years old and I am ready to get rid of it now. It always has something wrong with it. I cry in my hands every time I look at the made in the U.S.A. sticker on the back. I will never buy another.

 

[BethesdaEC]

Would you believe that I've had exactly one vehicle bought back by the factory under the Lemon Law? How about if I told you that it was the one, and only, Toyota I ever purchased? No kidding. I bought a brand new Toyota Avalon ('95 I think?) their first year out. I was promised that it was nothing new; just a stretched Camry, which at the time was one of the most reliable vehicles.

In the first, and only, year of ownership, I was in possession of the vehicle for just over 2 months. The rest of the time it was at the dealership in their shop. Failures included, engine, front drive shafts, a constant and extremely loud wind noise, failed power windows and a constant popping and grinding noise in the front (proved to be the top of the struts and tens of thousands of Avalons suffered that same failure for at least 5 years of production before Toyota changed them).

I Believe it, my grandfather had one too. What a piece of junk, but then again Toyota stopped making good cars 10 years ago. Pretty much since the 98 to 2002 sludge-0-matic engines. My father in law bought a 2000 Odyssey, six trips to the dealer to get the airbags to finally work and he is on his second transmission which grenaded at 60K miles. I will stick with my Fords thank you very much.

 

[John47]

A Stihl saw, was bought because my old Stihl "farmboss" died and couldn't get a replacement electronic ignition anywhere. I had around 20 years service out that machine, started most times first pull.

New one lasted a couple of hours and seized up! Dealer replaced piston, cylinder head and a couple of other things.
Got it home, lasted about an hour, yep seized up again.
Dealer blamed me and said I didn't know how to use a chains saw, one minute he's saying I added too much 2 stroke oil to the mix then contradicts himself saying not enough.
Made a formal complaint to Stihl, they told the dealer to send the damaged parts to them. After a week, we were told to pick the repaired saw up, covered by full warranty.
Yep, you guest it, lasted less than an hour.
It's still in my shop four years later, I bought myself a Husqvarna after that, did have a warranty issue with it, but been operating perfectly ever since.
No more Stihls for me.

 

[Diamondpilot]

A Stihl saw, was bought because my old Stihl "farmboss" died and couldn't get a replacement electronic ignition anywhere. I had around 20 years service out that machine, started most times first pull.

New one lasted a couple of hours and seized up! Dealer replaced piston, cylinder head and a couple of other things.
Got it home, lasted about an hour, yep seized up again.
Dealer blamed me and said I didn't know how to use a chains saw, one minute he's saying I added too much 2 stroke oil to the mix then contradicts himself saying not enough.
Made a formal complaint to Stihl, they told the dealer to send the damaged parts to them. After a week, we were told to pick the repaired saw up, covered by full warranty.
Yep, you guest it, lasted less than an hour.
It's still in my shop four years later, I bought myself a Husqvarna after that, did have a warranty issue with it, but been operating perfectly ever since.
No more Stihls for me.

I do work for 3 guys who do lawn and garden type care. Mainly own mowing business but also have equipment ranging from mowers, saws, dump trucks, diesel pickups, BobCats, Bull Dozer, Back Hoe, ect. Anyway, they run nothing but Stihl but are done with them.

The Stihl stuff of the last 4 years or so is nothing compared to the older stuff. Pressed parts instead of bolts and studs, cheap plastics, ect. One guy has a Poulan Pro that has outlasted his last Stihl saw. They are all going Husky or Efco. The new Efco stuff is not cheap but is about 1/3 the weight and more HP per saw.

Chris

 

[peterc38]

That would be China, they just purchased 18% of GM stock.

I heard a news report on the radio about this and they stated it as 1%, not 18%.

Other sources appear to corroborate this.

China's SAIC buys nearly 1 percent stake in GM | AP Nation / World - The News Tribune

GM stock opens strong in first day of trading - Nov. 18, 2010

 

[Don87]

I heard a news report on the radio about this and they stated it as 1%, not 18%.

Other sources appear to corroborate this.

China's SAIC buys nearly 1 percent stake in GM | AP Nation / World - The News Tribune

GM stock opens strong in first day of trading - Nov. 18, 2010

That's weird........initial radio reports put it at 18%. I heard it on 4 different stations between New York City and Pittsburgh.


EDIT: Makes one woder what's being covered up this time.

 

[Diamondpilot]

That's weird........initial radio reports put it at 18%. I heard it on 4 different stations between New York City and Pittsburgh.


EDIT: Makes one woder what's being covered up this time.

Guess it comes down to who is telling the story. I looked it up and it looks like they have 1% of the new offering but a ton of the old stuff. Not sure if it equals 18% or not?

Chris

 

[Don87]

Guess it comes down to who is telling the story. I looked it up and it looks like they have 1% of the new offering but a ton of the old stuff. Not sure if it equals 18% or not?

Chris

I'm not sure.
It was my understanding that the old stock was gone(=0), because the company went bankrupt, and the taxpayers bailed out the union, because they overstepped and promised more to the employees than the compnay could possibly afford.
Last I heard before the collapse, was that 1/3 of the GM workforce was being paid to stay home(what business can afford this).
But what do I know.............I'm not an overpaid congressman, or senator............nor am I a member of the UAW.

 

[aczlan]

The next time I buy a walk-behind tiller [which will probably be never] it's going to be the biggest baddest Troy-bilt money can buy.
To save my back I am now getting a tiller for whichever larger than average lawn tractor I am getting.

BCS also makes a nice machine, but it doesn't till quite as deep as a troybuilt.

Aaron Z

 

[mjncad]

Most of the issues resulted from someone flat out not giving a rip. It's depresing to se what passes as craftsmanship these days

Crapsmanship = craftsmanship in the eyes of the crooks building modern housing.

That would be China, they just purchased 18% of GM stock.

I thought China bought the rolling blow job called Hummer to get a foot into the USA market for their crappy cars.

My father in law bought a 2000 Odyssey, six trips to the dealer to get the airbags to finally work and he is on his second transmission which grenaded at 60K miles. I will stick with my Fords thank you very much.

Odyssey is made by Honda. Sienna's and prior to that Previa's are made by Toyota.