LEMONS!

[bullbreaker]

I know this thread is mostly about cars,trucks,and tractors but allow me to get this off my chest. About 16 years ago I bought (new) a McCulloch "Timberbear" chainsaw that I would not recommend to anybody even as an anchor for a canoe.Don't even know if McCulloch still around.
I know other good brands out there but from then on I only buy Stihl's.

Boone

 

[Western]

I know this thread is mostly about cars,trucks,and tractors but allow me to get this off my chest. About 16 years ago I bought (new) a McCulloch "Timberbear" chainsaw that I would not recommend to anybody even as an anchor for a canoe.Don't even know if McCulloch still around.
I know other good brands out there but from then on I only buy Stihl's.

Boone

Boone, I had one of those too, somewhere:laughing: McCullough did go under years ago.

 

[mjncad]

I think there's a lot of folks doing that :laughing:

fordcummins.com - Increase Horsepower with Ford Cummins Diesel conversion kits

Interesting...the best of both worlds?

 

[rjwerth]

Not a GM fan...and much of my family and friends work for them.

I have an 09 Acadia that I purchased new. So far, I've had the following replaced:

--Power Mirror
--Door Trim panel
--memory seat buttons
--radio
--leather seat (cover)
--battery
--cargo door struts

and the real kicker----the timing belt!

On top of all that, the interior parts rattle like my Subaru does with 110K miles.

I love the way the car looks, drives, and fits my needs...but I cannot tolerate such poor quality.

 

[Builder]

Interesting...the best of both worlds?

Or just getting rid of a boat anchor......:laughing:

 

[Builder]

My complaint about GM isn't because I had problems with my Montana. Problems can happen with any product. However, when GM was unwilling to stand behind their product and act as if having to replace two head gaskets at under 150,000 KM was normal maintenance I got a little ticked. If that is their normal maintenance I cannot afford one or want another. Their attitude was the killer for me.

Had similar experience when wearing the Blue-oval sunglasses back in the day. Heads were leaking on my windbag at under 60K. Engine growled harshly and barely had enough power to pass on the highway. Ford told me to pound sand.
And I had bought 10 F250-F450 trucks (replacing several transmissions in those) from Ford. Was considered a "loyal customer" :laughing:
I still buy Fords. I don't hold grudges like some guys do (but I used to). I find it's more satisfying to forgive and move-on realizing that it's pretty myopic to think just because poor lil ol me got a bad Ford (or 2 or 3 or 4 ) doesn't mean they're all junk.
When you build millions of cars/yr, it's easy to see why some Fords just aren't "built Ford tough".

 

[Builder]

Not a GM fan...and much of my family and friends work for them.

I have an 09 Acadia that I purchased new. So far, I've had the following replaced:

--Power Mirror
--Door Trim panel
--memory seat buttons
--radio
--leather seat (cover)
--battery
--cargo door struts

and the real kicker----the timing belt!

On top of all that, the interior parts rattle like my Subaru does with 110K miles.

I love the way the car looks, drives, and fits my needs...but I cannot tolerate such poor quality.

Subaru.....:laughing:
Sorry.

 

[rjwerth]

Subaru.....:laughing:
Sorry.

Hey, if everything I owned was as reliable as my Subie, I'd be a very happy camper.

 

[Builder]

Hey, if everything I owned was as reliable as my Subie, I'd be a very happy camper.

Just to show you how there can be lemons in any brand: I have 2 friends that owned subarus. One had a back window leak that the dealer couldn't fix. Car rotted out in 2 years. The other had so many problems with his, he sold it.
I have 160,000 miles on my GMC Sierra and Chevy Tahoe combined and can't be happier. Very few problems. Tahoe had a power seat module fixed under warranty and my Sierra still has original brakes at 75,000 miles. Only problem I had was a carrier bearing went out at 65,000 and I had a brake light come on, but was just an electrical connection. I think the days of piling on US made vehicles for reliability issues are long gone.

 

[FastPauly]

The Grandson and I have a new road game we play when travelling.....instead of "Punch-Bug", we now play "One Eyed Chevy". You ever notice how many GM vehicles you meet that have one of the daytime driving lights out? Start taking notice....you will be amazed.

 

[Builder]

The Grandson and I have a new road game we play when travelling.....instead of "Punch-Bug", we now play "One Eyed Chevy". You ever notice how many GM vehicles you meet that have one of the daytime driving lights out? Start taking notice....you will be amazed.

One daytime headlight out does not make a lemon.

 

[Treemonkey1000]

The Grandson and I have a new road game we play when travelling.....instead of "Punch-Bug", we now play "One Eyed Chevy". You ever notice how many GM vehicles you meet that have one of the daytime driving lights out? Start taking notice....you will be amazed.

I have a theory on that. Those lights turn on as soon as the vehicle starts. The lights aren't made by Ford Chevy Dodge or any other vehicle maker. I think the voltage spike from the starter is taking out those driving lights. Like you though I do see a lot of them cyclops vehicles.

 

[FastPauly]

Yea Treemonkey1K.....I thought about setting a roadside stand out front for the Grandson.....he could sell both lemonade and GM daytime driving lights. It could prove to be a jump start towards his college tuition.

Relax GM folks.....only pointing out what is a known problem throughout a few model years of GM pickups and SUV's....do a search on the subject and I guarantee you will have several hours worth of reading.

 

[Treemonkey1000]

Yea Treemonkey1K.....I thought about setting a roadside stand out front for the Grandson.....he could sell both lemonade and GM daytime driving lights. It could prove to be a jump start towards his college tuition.

Relax GM folks.....only pointing out what is a known problem throughout a few model years of GM pickups and SUV's....do a search on the subject and I guarantee you will have several hours worth of reading.

Hey that's a great idea FastPaul. He could make more money off the driving light replacement than any lemonade..A friend of mine has one of those Chevy's with the driving light out I am always bugging him about it. I have a Kia Spectra that shuts off the lights after a few minutes if you leave the headlights on. I was going thru headlamps fairly quickly doing that. So I started shutting off the headlights when I parked it. I haven't had to replace any since.. That voltage spike in the system makes sense to me. Driving the freeway every morning and afternoon I try to see what brand is sitting by the road the most often.. It warms my heart to see BMW and Mercedes sitting there as well.... :laughing:

 

[jonyyuma]

Lots of driving lights out around here. Plus next time one of them Vettes goes by look and see if the tail-lights work. I guess they surge when the brake comes on...Yeah, that sounds like bashing again, but, that Vette is supposed to be the best GM has to offer, besides GM buses..

 

[Builder]

You only wish you had a Vette. :laughing:
Didn't you know bashing rules don't apply to GM on TBN?

 

[jonyyuma]

We both know I could own and drive one. But getting into a Vette and out would be too painful. Bashing GM, nah.. They just made a mint selling the new Hybred buses to MEM. believe the prices were 3 units for a MILLION dollars a set. Now who says they make their money on PU"S and Escalades? At Least they are still in Business...

 

[Diamondpilot]

He is back folks.:thumbsup:

Chris

 

[schaibaa]

My Cub Cadet 2544 is really disappointing. It is 3 years old and I am ready to get rid of it now. It always has something wrong with it. I cry in my hands every time I look at the made in the U.S.A. sticker on the back. I will never buy another.

DOH

I love mine =/

I had a 2007 envoy that was a 'lemon'.

Too much crap to list.

Builder - why the hard on for everyone that had a bad experience with GM?

 

[NICKB304]

wow i cannot believe all the s-10 problems. i beat the snot out of mine for 186,000mi untill the clutch started to go. i sold it and still seen it driving around town for another 5 years. it was a 1994, 2wd, 2.2, 5 speed stick.