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   / Let's talk flail mowers #7,991  
Thanks. This was my concern - the torque forces when extended out and to the side. I have a loader so I am thinking my front end should have enough weight and my rear tires are set out all the way. It is the side shift part that concerns me. Do you think the 10” /50lbs reduction of the smaller unit (132) will make enough of a difference?
Yes. My tractor is slightly bigger and I have a 175mm flail. Fortunately, mostly of my property is flat. I can definitely feel it when I swing the flail out wide. I'm not an engineer, but the 10" is likely a bigger deal than the 50 lbs.
 
   / Let's talk flail mowers #7,992  
Thanks. This was my concern - the torque forces when extended out and to the side. I have a loader so I am thinking my front end should have enough weight and my rear tires are set out all the way. It is the side shift part that concerns me. Do you think the 10” /50lbs reduction of the smaller unit (132) will make enough of a difference?
I have a 78" ditch flail on my Branson 8050, with the loader and weights on the tractor I'm a bit over 11,000 pounds. I can definitely feel it when the mower is offset all the way out, I have considered adding another 600 pounds to the left side of the tractor to compensate for the mower.
With the OP's tractor being under 4000 pounds I can't image how that would throw that tractor around.

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   / Let's talk flail mowers #7,993  
Hello all,
New tractor owner here. Considering a Del Morino Centurion Super 158 to run behind a Kubota L4060. Del Morino says it weighs 820 lbs and needs a 15-60 hp tractor , makes a 62” cut and an overall width of 72”. The L4060 manual says the tractor can handle up to an 880 lb flail mower. I have loaded tires (rimguard) and 2 sets wheel weights (appx. 200lbs per wheel). The Del Moreno dealer (Messicks in this case) recommended I step down to the next smaller model the 132. The 132 is a 52” cut (10” less) and 772lbs (app. 50lbs lighter). The price difference is $200. If my tractor can handle it the extra width on the 158 seems preferable.
I have a relatively hilly property in the. Hudson Valley with a pond. The idea behind getting such an expensive mower was to hopefully do it “all” and not get multiple mowing implements. I have 2 fields which I am required to mow so woody vegetation does not grow per the easement agreement. I estimate the fields are 15 acres. One is relatively flat, very wet, and rough and the other is smoother, drier, and hillier.
There are slopes around the driveway and barn that seem ideal for me to push the flail out to the side and mow while I am on a compacted driveway or other flat area. I am hoping to minimize mowing on hills.
Is the L4060 big enough to handle the larger mower? Am I wrong to think this one unit can take care of my mowing needs? Does anyone have this tractor and mower combination and can provide some thoughts?
It’s a lot of money to get it wrong.
Thanks for your thoughts.

My 1,500lbs 7.2' Peruzzo brush bull is a little big for my L4060, but runs fine. I really wish I had a L6060 in heavy thick grass, but not enough to upgrade.

Your 4060 will handle the bigger one just fine. May need to go a bit slower. But slow & wide beats fast & narrow. Smoother on you & the machine.
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   / Let's talk flail mowers #7,994  
My 1,500lbs 7.2' Peruzzo brush bull is a little big for my L4060, but runs fine. I really wish I had a L6060 in heavy thick grass, but not enough to upgrade.

Your 4060 will handle the bigger one just fine. May need to go a bit slower. But slow & wide beats fast & narrow. Smoother on you & the machine.View attachment 874540
Just saw the offset stuff. I can slide my mower about 2.5'. The black belt guard ends up even with the left tire puts a lot of torque on the 3pt & the machine if it's in the air. So I really only side shift it much past center when it's on the ground. I can dangle about 3' of mower past my left tire & usually do when mowing & the roller is on the ground .

Not sure what that means for an offset mower though. May be able to run it on the ground, but I doubt it would lift safely.
 
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   / Let's talk flail mowers #7,995  
As I mentioned before you will have little over center control of the
mower head other than the position of the mule on level ground.

The forces created by the swinging of the boom and mower body
and the combined weight of the boom and mower head are going
to act like a 5 gallon pail of gear oil hung on a 16 foot 2 by 6 swinging
back and forth while the last 4 feet of the 2 by 6 is resting on a 15
gallon barrel.

Read the Del Morino MOWER literature thoroughly, look at the
tractor and mower diagrams showing the centerline height of the
mule and the positions of the mower on embankments PLEASE.
 

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   / Let's talk flail mowers #7,996  
Thanks for all of your input. I went with the smaller model and will use it cautiously. So thankful to have this forum and the many experienced and helpful people on it.
 
   / Let's talk flail mowers #7,997  
Mows fine like this, but picking it up shifted like this is sketchy. To much flex on the flail frame & 3pt for me to feel safe about things not breaking. With a 72" track the tractor itself is reasonably sable with things side shifted, but not great. Due to the 3pt flex I never really tested the actual stability for more than a few yards though.
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   / Let's talk flail mowers #7,998  
That's shifted? Now I have to take a picture of mine. I was planning to take it out this morning anyway. Iirc, mine goes further right. It might just be perspective, though.
 
   / Let's talk flail mowers #7,999  
That's shifted? Now I have to take a picture of mine. I was planning to take it out this morning anyway. Iirc, mine goes further right. It might just be perspective, though.
I could go an inch or 2 more to the right. The cylinder runs out of stroke & the PTO shaft would hit the shift hose. A mark or 2 on the hose when I didny have the banjo fitting rotated fully away from the PTO. Fixed now, but I still try to leave it a few inches from testing that it hasnt rotated into a clearance issue again.
 
   / Let's talk flail mowers #8,000  
That's the difference between a side shift and a offset.
My offset/ditch bank mower;
partially offset
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completely offset
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rotated up
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mowing while rotated about 45 degrees down
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mowing 45 degrees or more up
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