Lighting & workbench?

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Tdog

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My new workshop/garage is almost finished. I will then need to build a workbench, shelving and the like. I will also have to install lighting.
Does anyone have suggestions? I've built a workbench before from 3/4" plywood, cut to a 3 x 8' sheet, about 30 inches from the floor.
What about lighting? The building is 30 x 40', concrete floor, with truss supports that are about 8 - 9' about the floor.
I plan to have a 30 amp line run underground to the shop.

Any suggestions will be welcome.
 
   / Lighting & workbench? #2  
Your workbench sounds about right. I always double up my 3/4" ply for the top and use a 1/4" piece of tempered hardboard as a floating final top so I can replace it easily..just hold it on with a couple of screws in the corners.

As for the lighting...I just got done installing 15 4' T8 fluorescent fixtures in my 24'x30' garage. I really like the T8 lights because of the electronic ballast, they're quiet, start fast and work in cold weather.
 
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My trusses are higher than yours, but I have multiple banks of double 8-foot fluorescent tubes attached to the bottom of the trusses. This gives good overall light to the whole shop, but I have 36" tubes lower and right over the workbench area, and drop-down cord reel type trouble lights in the tractor/car/motorcycle work bay. This setup works well for me.

Pete
 
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Just a suggestion, on your workbenches I would make the tops 36" inches high(same as kitchen counters) instead of 30'' (which would be equal to the bathroom sink) sure ends up being easier on the back while working on a project.
As for the electric I would go to at least 50 amp 220 volt service so that you will be able to power that welder that your going to have to buy to finish all thse projects that you'll be doing in your new living room. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( . . .As for the lighting...I just got done installing 15 4' T8 fluorescent fixtures in my 24'x30' garage. I really like the T8 lights because of the electronic ballast, they're quiet, start fast and work in cold weather.)</font>

Right on. I just loaded up my shop with similar lighting. No flicker when they're cold and instant on. A little more than the cheapest ones available, But, what a difference.

I might suggest putting the over head lights on several switches. Make one string of lights "aisle/walk way" lighting. That way you can get across the shop without killing yourself and not have to have all the lights on.

Then put the rest of the lights on a three way (operates from two places) circuit. When you get to the work bench, and finish the project or collect tools, you can turn on the rest of the shop lights without having to walk back to the front door.

I've put both the aisle and remaining lighting both on 3-ways. That way I can kill all the shop lighting when I am at the workbench area. The workbench area has its own light switch. No sense in having 1,000+ watts of shop lights on when you are working in the workbench area.

Put a plug on each side of the roll up door so you can run extension cords outside to work on machinery. Put your wall plugs ot least 3' above the floor, if you put 'em at 4' you can put your bench anywhere without covering the plugs. You don't have to bend over as far to plug in tools--this isn't the house and you don't need to hide the cords. Place a plug under each window. That way the plugs will still be accessable when you've stacked things against the wall--when you stack things against the wall you don't cover the windows.

Make sure to have drop cords from the ceiling as Pete suggests. Just run them off a different circuit than the overhead lights. Yeah it's more work, but, that way when you pop a circuit breaker you'll still have lights to see by.
 
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( . . . I plan to have a 30 amp line run underground to the shop. Any suggestions will be welcome. )</font>

Do youself a favor and run at least a 50 amp, 220 volt, circuit to a separate panel. Don't skimp on the wire size, a #6 size wire cable will work up to 100'. A 50 amp double breaker (for 220) is easy to retrofit to the house breaker panel (or wherever you are getting the power from). That way you'll be able to run heavy power equipment and also have some capacity for a welder too. If you can do it, even more capacity would be better.
 
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I agree with having a higher amp load available and going 220. Too much is never enough! Also, the two circuits for lighting is a good idea. Run each one off of each leg of the box. Also, I'd sugest every other recepticle to be different than the others. Run them on both sides of the panel box, too. That'll help balance out the load, plus, should a main pop, everything on the other side is still available. It takes a bit more wire, but well worth the minor added cost.
 
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Only one comment on the lighting. Just seems that there is never enough for tired old eyes.

Egon /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
   / Lighting & workbench? #9  
<font color="blue">As for the electric I would go to at least 50 amp 220 volt service so that you will be able to power that welder that your going to have to buy to finish all thse projects that you'll be doing in your new living room.
</font> My plasma cutter uses a 50 amp 220 circuit. Wouldn't leave much juice for lights.
 
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<font color="blue"> The building is 30 x 40', concrete floor </font>

Like the others have said, 30 amps is not enough. You just don't know what your future needs willl be.

To top it off, electrical panels and wire are pretty cheap. Maybe more if you are not doing it yourself, but even then labor cost is probably the biggest part of the cost of the job.

The incremental cost of upping the service capacity is not that much and you will likely thank yourself later if you do go larger.

I ran 100 amps 220 volt out to my shed. And it is only 24 x 26' in size.

Now if your building is a long distance from the power source, that could be an issue as you need to consider voltage drop and wire size needs to be increased to compensate. I only had to go about 120 feet so that was not much of an issue...

If you can afford to go larger than 30 amps, be sure to do it. Too expensive to do over later...
 

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