Limitations of a sub compact?

   / Limitations of a sub compact? #21  
I think that you might want to rethink that. Most wheel barrows hold from 4-6 cubic feet. I have yet to see any SCUT that will hold 12 cubic feet let alone 18 CF. I always thought that a SCUT loader bucket was about the same size or just a little bigger than a wheel barrow, but never 2-3 times the size. :confused3: ;)

A rough comparison would be a scut bucket will handle about 3 times what a wheel barrow load would be. A bucket expander is also available for the Kubota BX.

You're right that a scut bucket is not 3 times the volume of a wheel barrow. A 48" scut bucket has a heaping volume of about 1/4 yard. A shade under 7ft^3. When I said it would handle about 3 times I was thinking about weight more than volume. Moving rocks for example. With my 165lbs working the handles of a wheel barrow, a load of more than about 200-220lbs gets to be to much if I have to go any distance, or go up hill, or go over soft ground, or multiple trips. I could do 300lbs for a short trip across flat, hard ground. So for me a reasonable wheel barrow capacity is around 200 lbs. Comparing with 600lbs in a scut bucket is where my 3 times number came from. I'm sure a much bigger, stronger person could handle 400lbs in a wheel barrow, on an incline, all day, but not me. I'd like to see the person that could work 600lbs in a wheel barrow. :confused3: :thumbsup:
 
   / Limitations of a sub compact? #22  
I'd like to see the person that could work 600lbs in a wheel barrow. :confused3: :thumbsup:
Come on now, I would think that any good brick mason that happens to be about 300lbs and all muscle, in his 20s, hasn't had sex for at least a few days should be able to do it. :rolleyes: ;)
 
   / Limitations of a sub compact?
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I wanted to thank all of you for the thought's about this thread. I appreciate all of your opinions. Write more if you would like!
 
   / Limitations of a sub compact? #24  
So what do you think? Is a scut in your future? :D
 
   / Limitations of a sub compact? #25  
For me the big limitation would be the small wheel diameter which prevents workiing on surfaces that are too rough, lumpy, bumpy, etc. I bought my B21 to move around trees and stumps, clean up after a dozer, install trenched counduit and generally make a nice driveway and yard inside a 4 acre hilly forested lot. My uncle has a B6200 that I have used as well. I see bigger machines go through rough areas and keep working where I have to stop and smooth out the terrian just to get to where i want to work.

Personally I would buy a used tractor of the size you need spend another $1500 on a very nice riding lawn mower.
 
   / Limitations of a sub compact?
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So what do you think? Is a scut in your future? :D

Yes but I don't know what one:licking:they all look pretty good but I am trying to figure out which model will suit me best and that seems difficult so far. I have looked at brands K,J, N,M which would be the ones in the closest proximity to me and they all look pretty good to me but I also am trying to think of the future. Another recent thought has been if I buy one of these sub compacts,a fairly standard model say with a FEL will I be able to easily find attachments like backhoes at a later date ?
 
   / Limitations of a sub compact? #27  
Yes but I don't know what one:licking:they all look pretty good

Them little subcompacts can do a lot more than one realizes. Just takes patience.:thumbsup:

Pictures of a Kubota B7100 HST at work attached.

Trench being dug
Area tilled and rocks drug in
Area dug out for turnaround. Rock pile from tilled area.
 

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   / Limitations of a sub compact? #28  
I don't think I seen acrerage size in post, but on my 6 acre a SCUT would be used every day with pleasure. I just sold a 5 ton @ 5000lbs full ht capacity loader & can tell ya that the only thing I miss is just having it because it was extremely well built & 3 full steps just to get in & was a beast for 60hp loader. BUT,,, could not take it anywhere near my mowing areas, which is 3 of 6acres. Machine would rut just looking at it & definately gotin the way of itself. I have over 100 40+ year old fir,pine, oak, ash, etc,..to mow around. My ground also takes alot to dry out for rutless machine work. Ruts......suck. Especially when you mow with a ZRT. No.. tractor can compete with ZRT for mowing around obsticuls & depending on your property maybe should consider SCUT & ZRT..?
I would stay with my 3000 series JD & 72" 37hp ZRT before I would upgrade to 4000 series & no ZRT. MY private road have about 10 SCUTs & CUTS on it & you would not believe what I have seen them do,.. takes time,but really unbelievable& won't get into it. They all still run & are not broken, just dinged up. I want big everything, but when reality sets in on how much I would use it .. it all goes away..fit machine to what you have. 2-10 acres a SCUT or CUT will do fine.
Joe
 

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   / Limitations of a sub compact? #29  
this picture shows an example of someone who most likely wished they had bought a larger tractor, ;)
 
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   / Limitations of a sub compact? #30  
For many years the only tractor we had was our Satoh Beaver. At 15hp, it certainly does not rank as a large tractor. We equipped it with FEL and backhoe. It never ceases to amaze me what we've done with it both at the family home and elsewhere. For work close to the house, it works with little risk of collateral damage. It fits between tightly spaced trees.

As others have stated, it's limited by size at times - we grow some pretty big rocks here and many of them the Beaver cannot budge. When dragging trees, you have to cut them smaller. I've managed to break the frame when working fast and careless, but a couple hours in the shop rendered it good as new.

But honestly, it owes us absolutely nothing and has served us extremely well. If I were to buy a replacement for the Beaver, it would likely be another SCUT so that I might take advantage of its small size.
 

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