Load balancing

[Avpowerstn]

This combo of trailer and loader is way, way too heavy for your very nice truck. Can the truck pull it, Yes. Cans the truck stop it, yes. But can you stop it fast, nope. That load is too much. You need a new one ton dually or 450/4500 to move this. Your hitch is not rated for it.

New I bet is about 40-60K + (for a dually) How about a really old dump truck..?? although a dually is prefered.
Agreed on load weight...Looks like my F350 will "not" be pulling this tractor and trailer....last thing I want to do is hurt someone..myself included.

 

[bdog]

That is a 15 ton pintle hook. The hitch on your truck you posted a picture of is not up to the task. Kind of hard to tell but in the picture it looks like it is cracked to the left of the sticker. With the pintle hook you are using it in the weight carrying /ball mount mode which means it is rated for 5,000 gross trailer weight and 500 lbs tongue weight. It likely isn't rated high enough to haul that trailer empty.

You can find decent old dump trucks in the 10-20k range. If you don't need a dump truck you could find something like a international 4300 or 4700 probably in the 5-10k range that is a medium duty truck. Likely would not have a bed so you could either build a flatbed or whatever.

 

[bdog]

Something like this. TruckPaper.com | 23 INTERNATIONAL 43 For Sale

Not necessarily recommending that particular truck but something like this would pull it safely. You could remove the box and put a flatbed.

 

[Diamondpilot]

Hello Bdog I hope this helps (pic of pintle and hitch)<img src="http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=471686"/><img src="http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=471687"/> I am assuming its a 15 ton pintle hitch..?? I called Draw-tite they said they did not make a class V receiver hitch..?

That is not a class 5 hitch. It's confusing but V5 is the SAE standard stamp that towing components are marked with that are sold in North America.

It's a class 3 hitch or possibly a class 4.

Chris

 

[tcartwri]

500 lb tongue rating is class 3.

Not even rated for the empty trailer.

 

[bspeedy]

Just a comment to our OP from the AV. Thanks for having the right attitude here. All these guys just told you that your plan was terrible, and you took it as advice and thanked them for their wisdom. All of us could learn a lesson here. When the voices of experience speak up - LISTEN TO THEM. Good job to all.

 

[bcp]

V-5 has nothing to do with the tow rating or class. It means the hitch meets or exceeds the minimum standard for a hitch.

Here is a link to the standards. Click on the V-5 for a PDF download of hitch standards.

VESC Regulations

Bruce

 

[Avpowerstn]

Something like this. TruckPaper.com | 23 INTERNATIONAL 43 For Sale

Not necessarily recommending that particular truck but something like this would pull it safely. You could remove the box and put a flatbed.

Thank You Bdog I am looking into trucks...I will probably go with a dump truck, which will give me the ability to add another service, and meet my towing needs.
I went to my local tractor mechanic he said I would probably be better off "backing" my tractor on to my trailer to balance it, or he said I could have a "dump bar or dump rack ??" welded on to the front of my trailer
so I could pull a little further onto the trailer (without backing on to the trailer).

 

[Avpowerstn]

Thank You BCP I will double read it.

 

[Avpowerstn]

Thank You BSPEEDY I see it as "these guys are handing out gold (knowledge) and I am scrambling to get as many buckets as I can. When I am told something I retain about 40% of the conversation.
When it is written down in posts like this website...I retain 100% after I re-read it about 2-3 times (some even more).
These guys are the Pro's, I am the beginner...and knowledge is power.