Loader mounted post hole digger??

   / Loader mounted post hole digger?? #21  
hunt4570

Hydraulics:
Type: open center
Capacity: 11.1 gal [42.0 L]
Valves: 2 to 3
Pump flow: 8.3 gpm [31.4 lpm]
Total flow: 13.2 gpm [50.0 lpm]
Steering flow: 4.9 gpm [18.5 lpm]

Your Kubota has enough hyd to do what you want.

The flow rate will determine the speed of the auger.

The power developed will be determined by the load on the auger.

If you use down pressure, the the auger speed decreases.

If you use the 4n1 control for the auger, you will have to either hold the lever or bungee the lever.

You could install a 3rd function valve and switch the auger on or off, and use the engine speed to regulate the pump GPM's for the auger.
 
   / Loader mounted post hole digger??
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#22  
Well as much as I'd like to get a loader mounted PHD they are just too much more than a 3ph unit to justify the expense. My ground is mostly sandy soil anyway so it isnt hard to dig, I was looking at these more for location accessibility anyway.

Will probably get a 3 point unit from Tractor supply up the road and save my money for a grapple.
 
   / Loader mounted post hole digger?? #23  
Fortunately, I had already run hoses with flat face couplers from the rear remotes up to the FEL arms to run my grapple, so that part of the cost of adding the hydraulic auger was already taken care of. There are a number of different manufacturers of relatively low-flow augers; I got the Belltec NC150 with 9" and 15" augers NC150 | Belltec Industries Inc. As others have noted, down force and reverse are both BIG pluses.
I am thinking of adding an FEL video camera to let me see the exact point where the auger tip meets the ground; on my DK45, the hood and cross-arm of the FEL obscur my view of that spot.
 
   / Loader mounted post hole digger?? #24  
If I had the AUX rear on my Deere 110 I would have invested in a hoe mounted auger... my terrain is hilly and being able to reach the exact spot in many cases would only be possible with the reach of my backhoe...

No thumb so no aux hydraulics.
 
   / Loader mounted post hole digger?? #25  
I made my Danuser Hyd. auger to use on my backhoe. Then when I installed a diverter valve for my grapple, I made a loader bucket side mount. After using both locations..................loader bucket locations don't work for me. Your farther from the auger and................most importantly...............you can not use your bucket to haul posts and equipment..............because the bucket is about 6 foot off the ground when the auger is attached!
I love it on back because I can see from a higher angle and poke two holes with out moving. It is easier to adjust the backhoe boom and dipper stick then a front mounted auger, where you have to creep the tractor a little aft when the auger is going it.........to keep plumb. I have used a PTO 3PH auger and hated it.
1-7-12 Auger Installed.jpg1-4-12 Auger Mount Close up.jpg5-27-07 PHD Ops Ck.jpg5-27-07 Auger going deep.jpg5-27-07 Auger motor plumbing.jpg
hugs, Brandi
 
   / Loader mounted post hole digger?? #26  
A backhoe auger also allows you to dig and install poles without removing the auger.
4-23-11 Installing new Meter Pole.jpg4-22-11 Augering new Meter Pole hole.jpg
hugs, Brandi
 
   / Loader mounted post hole digger?? #27  
I like the back hoe mount, very nice. Plus you could add a extension to dig deeper holes if need be.
 
   / Loader mounted post hole digger?? #28  
Finally, after years of using a 3 point hitch PHD and constantly using a spud bar and lots of back breaking hours pounding rocks, welding on augers, and replacing bits due to the Eden shale and clay soil here. I ordered a hydraulic drive and rock auger from Belltec. I checked all this out at the NFM earlier this month. Yes, it is expensive, but what is your back worth! I also ordered the puff bit for aiding with the driving of studded T posts. It is a loader mount system and I am adding the Land Pride 3rd function valve so I don't have run lines to the rear of the tractor. I have about a mile of fence and this should really speed things up. The last 2 holes I dug took 2 days! If I continued to use the 3pt. mount auger, which has been a really good one I would be dead before I finished the fence. I should get it done just about when the cattle market will tank!
 
   / Loader mounted post hole digger?? #29  
Bindian: great set up, and thanks for sharing your very explicit pictures. If you would have a fence line to put up, then I am sure you would switch it to the front bucket side. The Danuser brand is affordable. Using hydraulics comes in handy when stuck in the hole, using reverse.
I have a 3pt hitch mounted auger. It works great if you have only a few holes to dig. It is slow gowing, and getting precisely on the right spot is certainly more difficult. Also, it is very difficult for one person to mount the unit on the tractor, and consequently removing it. Alslo the 3pth up stroke could be barely enough for clearing the ground...
 
   / Loader mounted post hole digger?? #30  
I bought a Lowes front mount auger at the start of a project that involved about a mile and a half of new fence using bodarc (hedge/osage orange) corners, braces and a line post every 100ft. The ground was mixed. about half of the holes could be dug 3 1/2' deep and never hit a rock. Other parts were an adventure. Small rocks, big rocks, roots from previous trees.
My summary is that in big rocks and roots you will stall out the tractor hydraulics. The reverse feature is nice here. The down pressure is good but it still won't go down if the auger isn't turning (stalled out). My tractor is a Kubota 5740 and I assume that my hydraulic pressures are working at capacities they should, but when it got tough the auger would stall.
All in all, I'm not dissatisfied, maybe just a little disappointed. A real labor saver and much better placement of the auger without having to turn around so much (really nice feature for the fat guys with arthritic necks out there!) I would do it again. Also, buy the carbide replacement teeth, Its worth the extra cost.
 
 

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