logging winch

[easygo]

Look what I found on Youtube! There is no mention of the particular way of the hookup but sure looks like similar setup to what you are building. He talks about a Mile Marker 105 winch being used.
YouTube - Three Point Hydraulic Winch on a Tractor First Generation
YouTube - Micro Logging with a hydraulic winch and 33hp New Holland Tractor
YouTube - oldboytoys's Channel

 

[MossRoad]

Look what I found on Youtube! There is no mention of the particular way of the hookup but sure looks like similar setup to what you are building. He talks about a Mile Marker 105 winch being used.
YouTube - Three Point Hydraulic Winch on a Tractor First Generation
YouTube - Micro Logging with a hydraulic winch and 33hp New Holland Tractor
YouTube - oldboytoys's Channel

In the time that guy took to pull that log out of there with that winch/snatchblock setup I think I could have weaseled my way down there with my little PT425, cut it in 3-4 sections with my chainsaw and dragged them out with a chain. How painfully slow!

 

[Treemonkey1000]

In the time that guy took to pull that log out of there with that winch/snatchblock setup I think I could have weaseled my way down there with my little PT425, cut it in 3-4 sections with my chainsaw and dragged them out with a chain. How painfully slow!

Yeah that was pretty slow. Maybe pretend you are 70 years old and that was out in a swampy area. Then that wouldn't be so bad. I do think winches would be nice to have. With that particular video I would have hooked up my ole Kubota L3750 via the snatch block to the log, then to my tractor and drove it until the log was up to the tree. That would save me a lot of time.

 

[MossRoad]

Yeah that was pretty slow. Maybe pretend you are 70 years old and that was out in a swampy area. Then that wouldn't be so bad. I do think winches would be nice to have. With that particular video I would have hooked up my ole Kubota L3750 via the snatch block to the log, then to my tractor and drove it until the log was up to the tree. That would save me a lot of time.

If I was 70 and that log was in a swamp, I'd leave it there! That's what kids are for.

 

[easygo]

I agree that it is slow and in that particular case you would have room to drive to the next town. BUT! When I'm in the woods and close to a soft muddy spot I sure would take the slow winch instead of having to drive into the mud several more times as I'm pulling the log to the road. Unfortunately that is what I have to do now.

Another thing I noticed that it sounds like his tractor is running at idle speed. I wonder if it was faster if he gave it just a little more throttle.
I'm shure 6Sunset6 will give us the answer to that as soon as he has his winch hooked up.

 

[GRNMAPLE]

That sound Good i am just wavering between brands..Frami .. Wallinsein ... Norse.
Guess it depends on availablity. Service & Cost.
I bought a 55hp Kioti now wonder if i should go up a model? Do you think 6500# is tough enough for Avg work?>

 

[tessiers]

My Norse 290 is about 6500 lbs and I am still amazed at how powerful it really is. I have an 8000lb winch on my truck for misc stuff and the norse seams to have more power, maybe its just my lack of patience. I hauled 1 pine log that scaled 980 board feet (36" small end 16, log) up an 80% grade with no trouble. It was in the late fall with a little frost and about 6" snow, and I did have to give her a little throttle but she did it. I had to cut the butt log into 2 - 10 footers she just wouldn't do a 42" 20 footer.

 

[magicheater]

I had a Farmi a few years back and logged a few semiloads of red oak out with it. Stout winch, had it on a 1600 oliver utility. When I got my Kubota L4350 I sold it and got an Implemac grapple w/5000lb hyd. winch. Had to install a joy stick in the back for all the functions but boy did it work out well. Being able to grab, go and drop logs with out all that ground work w/chains is sweet. It has the winch when you need to access logs you can't get to on steep hills or whatnot. It has the capability to heel the logs also so I use for cutting firewood as well. Logs up at waist height and out of the dirt. I am not sure Implemax is still in business but I sure love there grapple, believe I got the 48" unit.

 

[6sunset6]

It warmed up to 30d and I was out in my shop like a shot. Pictures say it all.
The winch mounting plate I took from my old electric 8000 # Warn, the one I was originally talking about trying to convert to hydraulic. Worked out really nice in fact the fair lead unit went into the same mounting holes. The winch is off set from the tractor center line by a couple of inches because I wanted to nest the winch in close and have nothing sticking past the carry all frame. My old winch was face mounted to the plate, the new hydraulic is bottom mounted. I was a little concerned but all the Mile Markers are mounted like that. I have all the fittings and hoses figured out. $$$ . I am taking this opportunity to convert all of my QD to male/ female on one side. Means I have to buy 4 Females but I think it will keep everything cleaner ,i.e. All unattached implements have the hydraulic lines connected to each other. The little square plate with the tape on it is the manifold block for the vickers valve. The vickers is shown in another picture. The 2 wire bullet conn and 2 hyd lines are the only connections to the tractor. I set the height of the winch so the pull point height is 2 " above the draw bar but still well below the center line of the axle. I bolted everything up because I have had everything on and off 3-4 times. Its much easier to drill holes in a drill press than with a hand drill. It really hard to get a big weldment into the drill press. Plus the carry all has ready made holes. I drill 9/16 diam holes for 1/2 bolts.
Next order fittings, work on guard. I think 1" EMT with sweeps and couplings for the curves. This assembly I will braze the joints after the fit is all done.
Also have to weld on an anchor foot. Something to dig in when pulling. This will be the last thing. Also a bar with slots to hook chains in to drag with and last someeking of box for chain saw etc. Cannot decide whether or not to cut off the carry all arms that go back. Think I will wait and see how it works.

 

[mwark]

Anybody have the 290 Norse? I've been wishful of one of those for a while.

Chilly

I've been using one for three years. This tool is unbelievable. I have moved some very big trees with this winch. I've also had a few near misses. You really want to slow down and think about what might happen if thing don't go exactly as your planning.

I bought mine lightly used, all in all a very good value.