Looking for my first pocket gun.

   / Looking for my first pocket gun. #153  
And that goes the same for a handgun. :rolleyes:

I expect most TBNers know felons cannot own or possess firearms (or even be in a home where firearms are present, BTW).
 
   / Looking for my first pocket gun. #154  
   / Looking for my first pocket gun. #156  
It seems as is usual with the law, there are often nuances and will vary between state and federal:

18 U.S.C. ァ 931 : US Code - Section 931: Prohibition on purchase, ownership, or possession of body armor by violent felons

Not to be nit picky, but convicted felons can regain the right to possess a firearm through several avenues which are or use to be on the BATFE web site.

That's true...I've known of guys who did stupid crap when they were kids (minor drug dealing, mostly) who just wanted to obtain a rifle to hunt. As you wrote, it can be done, but it isn't easy...

I have mixed feelings on this...however, once a person pays their debt, I reckon they should have their full rights restored. But again...somewhat mixed felings on this.
 
   / Looking for my first pocket gun. #157  
That's true...I've known of guys who did stupid crap when they were kids (minor drug dealing, mostly) who just wanted to obtain a rifle to hunt. As you wrote, it can be done, but it isn't easy...

Yeah, here in Missouri it is next to impossible since the feds no longer fund BATFE investigations for "Restorations of Rights". Your only recourse is to apply for a Gubernatorial Pardon. I use to do the investigations in my area and forward them to the Governor for consideration. Even if the report was favorable, maybe it would be granted and maybe it wouldn't. No reasons were ever given and it might take up to two years to hear anything.

I have a good friend who pled guilty to stealing when he was eighteen and was expelled form high school one week before graduation. He later joined the Army, served in combat in Vietnam, got married and had a family, worked in a steady high paying job, served in the town council and helped organize a local Rescue Squad and raised money for a dedicated Rescue Truck and equipment and has served as a volunteer Fire Fighter for over thirty-five years. He never even bothered to apply and it is still illegal for him to own a firearm.

I have a pretty Libertarian view of firearms ownership and agree that in most non violent offenses all rights should be restored upon completion of a sentence or release from supervision. Missouri use to have a statute in which you could own a firearm once five years had passed, but no longer.
 
   / Looking for my first pocket gun. #158  
what communist country do you guys live in?

I have maybee 4 different types of vest / carriers.. from a 2nd chance , with k30 trauma plate to one with a k30 and k47 in a carrier, and a frag vest, and a soft body armor vest.

I live in the FREE state of Florida in the US...

soundguy

Nope. They're legal.

OK. I guess I had that mixed up. I know I've read news stories of people being arrested or charged with having body armor, but they must of been convicted felons already.

This is just a guess, but I'd bet there would be additional charges if you committed a serious crime wearing a bullet proof vest.

I've got Nam era flak vest and shorts, but except for the smaller, weakest calibers, I don't think they are designed to, or would stop projectiles. They are heavy though.

It seems as is usual with the law, there are often nuances and will vary between state and federal:

18 U.S.C. ァ 931 : US Code - Section 931: Prohibition on purchase, ownership, or possession of body armor by violent felons

Not to be nit picky, but convicted felons can regain the right to possess a firearm through several avenues which are or use to be on the BATFE web site.

At the state level there are 2 ways. Executive pardon, where the governor's signature can make the record go away, not very common.
Judicial Pardon is more common, a certain amount of time must elapse since release from prison or end of probation. In CT the applicant faces a panel of 8-10 prosecutors and judges, so it is not easy, but is there to help those who can prove they have rehabilitated themselves, and deserve a second chance at a clean record. The vast majority are rejected though.

I'm sure it varies by state like most laws and regulations. The President often pardons some convicts at the end of their elected term.

JB
 
   / Looking for my first pocket gun. #159  
And I expected the same with the vests. ;)

In that link from TripleR above, it states only violent felons are prohibited from possessing body armor, so that leaves alot of non violent felons out there that can ??

JB
 
   / Looking for my first pocket gun. #160  
OK. I guess I had that mixed up. I know I've read news stories of people being arrested or charged with having body armor, but they must of been convicted felons already.

This is just a guess, but I'd bet there would be additional charges if you committed a serious crime wearing a bullet proof vest.

I've got Nam era flak vest and shorts, but except for the smaller, weakest calibers, I don't think they are designed to, or would stop projectiles. They are heavy though.

I'm sure it varies by state like most laws and regulations. The President often pardons some convicts at the end of their elected term.

JB

Yes, some states enhance the penalty for use of a vest in the commission of a crime and I think in some it is a crime to own one with the "intent" to use it in a crime; always hard to prove "intent", but it can be done.

A local PD tested Viet Nam era flak jackets hoping to save a few bucks and they didn't work on handgun fire.

The Presidential Pardon can only be given for federal offenses and not state, I had to post this on a forum the other day, it is on the DOJ website.
 

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