Looking for my first pocket gun.

[Bigfoot62]

Probably for something kinky with your wife...

Roy, your mind is in the gutter. :laughing:

 

[Soundguy]

With the availability of green tipped NATO rounds to the consumer, body armor is a mere 'marks the spot' attire. I have probably 1000 green tips because one, they are cheap and two, I want the Federal Brass for reloading.

rifle rounds are dangerous any way you look at them. soft body armor is great for pistol rounds..

soundguy

 

[gsganzer]

I carry either a 10mm 1911 commander, .380 sig P230 or a .380 Kel-tec P3AT.

The Kel-tec gets carried almost daily. There's a lot to be said for a gun you can carry in your shorts, jacket or shirt pocket.

BTW, The trapped hogs I dispatch have never had anything to say about the lethality of a .380 at close range.:confused2::laughing::laughing:

 

[JB4310]

I carry either a 10mm 1911 commander, .380 sig P230 or a .380 Kel-tec P3AT.

The Kel-tec gets carried almost daily. There's a lot to be said for a gun you can carry in your shorts, jacket or shirt pocket.

BTW, The trapped hogs I dispatch have never had anything to say about the lethality of a .380 at close range.:confused2::laughing::laughing:

Good to know.

No penetration issues, even skull shots???

JB

 

[Soundguy]

I carry either a 10mm 1911 commander, .380 sig P230 or a .380 Kel-tec P3AT.

The Kel-tec gets carried almost daily. There's a lot to be said for a gun you can carry in your shorts, jacket or shirt pocket.

BTW, The trapped hogs I dispatch have never had anything to say about the lethality of a .380 at close range.:confused2::laughing::laughing:

small world.

I also have a sig p230 and a keltec p3at. my 2 favorite carry guns.

at one time I toy'ed with carry a short slide 45. but it was a monster..

the sig is big enough as it is.

but that keltec gets carried daily. way easy to conceal and carry.. and as you point out.. when needed.. ithas stopping power.. at least good enough as an emergency gun.. besides.. james bond got by with that lil ppk for a long time..

soundguy

 

[gsganzer]

small world.

I also have a sig p230 and a keltec p3at. my 2 favorite carry guns.

at one time I toy'ed with carry a short slide 45. but it was a monster..

the sig is big enough as it is.

but that keltec gets carried daily. way easy to conceal and carry.. and as you point out.. when needed.. ithas stopping power.. at least good enough as an emergency gun.. besides.. james bond got by with that lil ppk for a long time..

soundguy

My 10mm 1911 Commander is a bobtail. The bob'd grip makes a world of difference. As does a Gary Broomelands IWB holster and a high noon belt. A well designed holster is the key. Forget the Galco's or other mass produced holsters. Find a Milt Sparks or a Broomelands and the difference is night and day. A true "gun belt" also helps, because it adds "torsional support" and prevents the grip from wanting to "flop" outwards.

My P230 is one of my favorites. It's an extremely accurate gun and can accurately shoot 25 yd targets. The same can't be said for the P3AT, it's a short range gun. It would be interesting to shoot the same ammo through both guns using a chronograph and see the difference in velocity. I suspect it might be significant. It certainly feels so, when shooting. The longer barreled P230 feels much more competent.

To answer the question on dispatching hogs, no, no problems with penetrating the skulls. I regularly dispatch them with .22LR (pistol and rifle), so even with the greater sectional density of a .380, I'd expect it to still penentrate enough for a humane kill.

 

[two_bit_score]

I have shot a hog in the ear with a .22 and killed it.

Have you ever shot a hog in the skull and killed it with the first shot with a .22 or other handgun round?

 

[gsganzer]

Have you ever shot a hog in the skull and killed it with the first shot with a .22 or other handgun round?

Yes. Right between the eyes. Both with a Sig P226 with a .22lr conversion and a Henry mini-bolt rifle, chambered in .22lr, the maximum pig size I've caught in the trap has been about 150#.

Typically the pigs will jump around the trap when you first walk up. Then they settle down and all crowd to the back, facing you. You poke the barrel in and they get curious and sniff it, then you lift the barrel a few inches and pull the trigger. Very quick and humane.

 

[Soundguy]

. As does a Gary Broomelands IWB holster

wow.. I have one as well.. I don't see them very often.

small world!

 

[two_bit_score]

Yes. Right between the eyes. Both with a Sig P226 with a .22lr conversion and a Henry mini-bolt rifle, chambered in .22lr, the maximum pig size I've caught in the trap has been about 150#.

Typically the pigs will jump around the trap when you first walk up. Then they settle down and all crowd to the back, facing you. You poke the barrel in and they get curious and sniff it, then you lift the barrel a few inches and pull the trigger. Very quick and humane.

They seem to drop with a .22 shot in the ear best for me.