Lost little dog to coyotes

[rsallen]

I'm too old to keep moving on.

Besides I was here first.......again.
The fox don't bother me nor the weasels, the owls, the hawks, the deer, the turkeys or the pesky coyotes.
Though any of them drive my dogs nuts.

For that matter in all the years I've lived in the sticks I've lost more dogs (one) to porcupine than anything resembling predator.

 

[dave1949]

I assume nothing.
Quote " Well, I guess my friend who watched his small dog get attack is lying" end quote

He either has there or he wasn't. And if he wasn't he has no idea what happened and is only talking about what may have happened.
And if he was on the scene shame on him.

Ease up my man.

If you are trying to preserve wildlife by promoting the idea that rural residents have some responsibility to co-exist with their surroundings, you are doing a terrible job of it. You are alienating people, not winning them over to your viewpoint.

You need to explain why you think that, and you need to admit when you are wrong--gracefully. A simple "Oops, I didn't know that" suffices. We've all been wrong about something, usually more than once.

 

[RobertBrown]

I'm too old to keep moving on.

Besides I was here first.......again.
The fox don't bother me nor the weasels, the owls, the hawks, the deer, the turkeys or the pesky coyotes.
Though any of them drive my dogs nuts.

For that matter in all the years I've lived in the sticks I've lost more dogs (one) to porcupine than anything resembling predator.

Well... losing a dog is hard, harder for some than it is for others.
As far as I can tell, coyotes are everywhere, and Cypress Texas is a suburb.
Our suburban friend, who started this thread has a coyote problem. He has not returned to get his solicited advice, so what are we talking about.....
You on the other hand, apparently live in a pristine, utopian, wilderness.
Should I ever be lucky enough find myself in a similar habitat, I send you a pm and ask for some advice on being one with fauna.
Thanks for all your help.

 

[two_bit_score]

Don't waste time with the 223, get a 243 Win or just use your 308 if you have one. 243 has excellent ballistics and it will take down a coyote at quite extended range.

RSAllen, your opinion is your own. You are no-ones ruler. Your advice regarding people returning to suburbia is superfluous. If all your neighbors took that advice you might have a little financial and service crisis in your neighborhood. Nobody is ever going to exterminate coyotes by shooting them. When they were originally exterminated it was with poison by the government. What shooting/killing them accomplishes is to change your status with the pack and they will modify their behavior as a result. They will keep further away from locations with people and specifically run away if a person shows themselves. That is what we want, after all ?

My work on a local sheep farm has resulted in the death of about 4 coyotes, but that small number (coyotes number over 30 which enter the property - that we know of) has resulted in them now avoiding the area that the sheep graze and anywhere near the barns. There was 1 lamb lost in the last year, compared to more than 100 lambs a few years ago.

No aggression towards predators like coyotes elevates their status until the day that they are attacking you, your livestock, domestic animals etc. Just like we see happening in urban areas (California leading the way) with ever increasing attacks on people.

I really don't care about who/what was where first, unless you can come up with a voter approved human euthanization plan for your community. If you can pull that off without your neighbors taking care of you, good luck...

If you see a coyote, kill it. They are like rats; if you see one there are 100 you don't see. As far as I'm concerned, coyotes only have one "animal right." That's a quick death from acute lead poisoning.

+1 on the .243 and I think a 80gr BTHP bullet is best. I like Remington.

And, Larry, hang their carcass on a fence post if you can.

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[dave1949]

Well... losing a dog is hard, harder for some than it is for others.
As far as I can tell, coyotes are everywhere, and Cypress Texas is a suburb.
Our suburban friend, who started this thread has a coyote problem. He has not returned to get his solicited advice, so what are we talking about.....
You on the other hand, apparently live in a pristine, utopian, wilderness.
Should I ever be lucky enough find myself in a similar habitat, I send you a pm and ask for some advice on being one with fauna.
Thanks for all your help.

The OP said he moved to the country and mentioned 100 acres. I didn't get the idea he lived in the suburbs. Well, everything is bigger in Texas I guess. :laughing:

Yes, he should return if he asks a question. Probably will.

 

[two_bit_score]

The OP said he moved to the country and mentioned 100 acres. I didn't get the idea he lived in the suburbs. Well, everything is bigger in Texas I guess. :laughing:

Yes, he should return if he asks a question. Probably will.

Yeah I kinda hope he doesn't get the mistaken idea that all of TBN is like rsallen.


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[sld]

If I buy acreage and move out to the sticks I have the right to manage that land any way I see fit..within the law anyway.

I'd shoot 100 coyotes and smile every time before I let one harm my bird dogs. And if they did harm one of my dogs I would shot another 500!

I feel the same way about snapping turtles...but that's a long story.:laughing:

 

[extrakt0r]

I just put down a Coyote today that was 150 yards away and eying my Border Collie....

 

[drssg]

I'm sorry to hear about Prissy. That must be devastating for you and your mother.

From what you describe, it doesn't sound like you'd need to go hunting in the traditional sense. If they are getting bold and coming close to the house in daylight, you could shoot them right from your house.

We have also gotten more cautious with the pets over time. The dogs don't go loose at night. If they need to go out, they are tied to a line near the house. If they are loose in the day time, we keep an eye on them. No wandering into the woods on their own, and potentially leaving the property.

I've only shot a couple of coyotes, and they were acting bold, like you described. IMO, normal coyotes are afraid of people, and I won't even see them. When they become aclimated to people (abnormal), they become more dangerous. You don't even have to act like a hunter to shoot them, because they've stopped acting like a wild animal.

 

[txdon]

Rsallen, you do know mice, spiders, scorpions, snakes, ants etc.. are also wildlife and even living in a rural area if they are inside your house, do you take them out alive and release them. We do, well, except for the ants and copperheads inside the yard.

I had a pack of 7 coyotes chasing after my dog howling (kind of a high yapping) heading directly toward me on Thanksgiving day this year. I just yelled and waved my arms and they abandon the chase. My dog was the initial aggressor when she took after one of the coyotes and the other 6 charged from the woods. I was wishing I had my camera more than my gun. Of course if they would not have dispersed I would have wanted the gun for self defense.

Some people do kill all wildlife when they move to the country. In our county there are advertised varmint hunts that gives prizes for killing off the most wildlife.

We give our pets as much protection as we can but since we do not keep them locked up 24-7 they do have exposure to be dinner for the wildlife. (Of course the cats also eat a lot of wildlife.)

I figure it is the prerogative of the owner of the land on how much wildlife they want to live with or without.