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[Soundguy]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( 80W90 viscosity is roughly equivalent to a 20W50 engine oil )</font>

I'd deffinatley be inclined to believe that. I've seen vauge references in ford literature about using straight 50w motor oil instead of 90w gear oil in steering boxes... etc.. that tends to back up your info as well.

Like you say though.. kinda hard to compair a gear oil to a sae oil.. or a hyd fluid.. etc.

Soundguy

 

[JINMA224XR]

Hey Guys,

Just an added note to my previous post:

I have not listened for the rasping noise from the Creeper Gear Box, after I put the 85w140 gear oil in it yet.

Have a nice day,
Joe

 

[greg_g]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( pulled the drain plug on the creeper gear box,, that only about an ounce of oil came out. It has been that way for about 80 hours. )</font>
I seem to recall recommending the kerosene flush to you. Must be about 80 hours ago now, wasn't it?

//greg//

 

[JohnS]

Did you pull one of the other drain plugs before the creeper one? If so, that is where most of the creeper oil went.

 

[greg_g]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Did you pull one of the other drain plugs before the creeper one? If so, that is where most of the creeper oil went. )</font>

I'm not sure you thought that statement all the way through John. Take a look at where the creeper case mates to the transmission. Even with the tranny and rear diff housing completely drained of fluid, there should still be about 3 inches left to drain out of the creeper case.

And since the transfer case drain is lower than the tranny/diff drains, it should still be completely full

//greg//

 

[Harrygoodwrench]

Joe, there have been a couple of guys that had your problem/concern. I guess the oil seeps thru the bearing in the trans housing into the creeper housing. There might be "debris" stopping the oil flow into the housing, but as JohnS said if you drained the other plugs you drained a majority of the oil.
One way to absolutely tell is pull the creeper cover. its only 8 bolts and the gasket usually doens't tear. Fill trans and watch to see if creeper fills. Some guys did a modification and installed a fill & dipstick. I plan on doing mine this spring if it ever comes.
Here is a few pics of the creeper and modification. The creeper box with oil in it is mine and shows the approximate correct oil level.

 

[Harrygoodwrench]

Here is a pic of a cover modified. I believe Paul Wilkie did these next two pics. I might go the pipe nipple and pipe cap as F100Panel did to prevent water from seeping past threads if outside. It does have a dipstick BTW.

 

[Harrygoodwrench]

Here is pic #3 showing a location for drilling a hole in cover. Most used between a 1/2" to 3/4" NPT plug or nipple. I'll go the 1/2" npt thats the biggest size tap I have in pipe thread.
Just have to measure oil level in trans and find correct level in creeper and weld dipstick to fill/check plug or use a separate dipstick. Its all a matter of choice.

 

[JINMA224XR]

Hey John,

I wish to God, that was the case, but that was the first plug, that I took out, to make sure that I at least had oil in the Creeper Gear Case, since that was the drain plug that I neglected to take out, when I did my first oil change. It's been that way since I got the tractor new. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

When I got the tractor home, I checked all the dipsticks and made sure that they were in the proper fill range. After that I didn't give a 2nd thought about it and put the tractor to work.

My main concern now, is whether the bearings at the front and the rear of the creeper gear housing, has gotten enough lubricant. I want to guess that maybe the bearing closest to the main transmission reservoir, got enough oil. But the bearing on the other end of the Creeper Gear Housing may not have gotten lubrication.

Greg, you were correct. Apparently the same weed eater mechanic also put my lubricants in. It would be fine with me, if you shot both me and my tractor.

I had no idea that oil was not flowing into the Creeper Gear Housing. Ignorance is no excuse though.

Have a nice day,
Joe