Price Check M7040 or 5083E

[gocards1177]

In the 2012 brochure the smaller 5 series are all open station, untill you get to the 5083E limited. Only the 5083E, 5093E, and 50101E, are listed as Cab.

Bill

Yep, that's how I ended up where I am. I'm going to go for a second test drive of both tomorrow. I'm going to press the Deere salesmen harder about information on the 2013 5075E cab which isn't out yet. Of course, that would be Tier 4.

 

[AKfish]

Yep, that's how I ended up where I am. I'm going to go for a second test drive of both tomorrow. I'm going to press the Deere salesmen harder about information on the 2013 5075E cab which isn't out yet. Of course, that would be Tier 4.

Nope... the new E's with cabs and Powerreverser transmissions (wet clutch) will be available in August. Cabs available on the 55, 65, 75, 83, 93, 101hp models.

Whenever I work through the process of buying a tractor - I sift through the details. Hydraulic options and capability. Transmission type and number of speeds and clutch type. Direct injected or indirect; wet sleeve or cylinder in block. 3pt lift capacity. Loader specs. And of course, the overall dimensions of the machine. Length, height, wheelbase and weight.

That info is the basis of whether one tractor versus the other is more likely to 1.) best fit the places where it will be used and 2.) do the work and do it over the long term.

Then, I try to throw in the other ingredients to the mix: dealer performance and relationship, warranty, price and financing.

Up here - I have just 3 choices. Deere, Kubota and NH. So, if most everything is on a par - it's dealer support. Part's and experienced repair people. Tractor brand is hardly on the radar..

AKfish

 

[gocards1177]

Not in so many words I believe I'm evaluating these in the same way. But still i have to find a $ figure i can live with.

Just drove 5083e again. Man its big! I know this is rare on this forum, but probably too big fr my intentions. Salesman from earlier this week was out on a delivery so ill go back this afternoon and see about a fair price. I like the Deeres they have but I probably need a 5075e size instead. August is a ways off and I'm not sure about price/tier4.

Going to go back to kubota after lunch for another look at m7040.

 

[foreman Etexas]

I didn't think you could get tha buddy seat in the 5083 did they change that? That's one thing wish kubota had for an option,I almost bought the NH powerstar 4.75 just cause it had a buddy seat.

 

[Notforhire]

Not in so many words I believe I'm evaluating these in the same way. But still i have to find a $ figure i can live with.

Just drove 5083e again. Man its big! I know this is rare on this forum, but probably too big fr my intentions. Salesman from earlier this week was out on a delivery so ill go back this afternoon and see about a fair price. I like the Deeres they have but I probably need a 5075e size instead. August is a ways off and I'm not sure about price/tier4. Going to go back to kubota after lunch for another look at m7040.

Just took a quick look at the specs. The 7040 looks to be about 10" shorter OAL, but the WB was less than 2 in longer on the 5083. If you can, measure the OAL with a loader on each of them. I think Kubota loaders tend to stick out a little farther than JD. At least that's the way they appear to me. They may be close.
They all shrink with age you know.

:laughing:

 

[Deerherd]

I didn't think you could get tha buddy seat in the 5083 did they change that? That's one thing wish kubota had for an option,I almost bought the NH powerstar 4.75 just cause it had a buddy seat.

I almost bought a NH for the same reason! Went with an LS and much to my surprise it showed a picture of a buddy seat in the manual. Talked with the LS dealer, he found the seat in his parts book and when he called the factory they said they weren't importing them. I can see/feel the four blind nuts where it mounts and I'm betting the NH seat will fit.

 

[foreman Etexas]

I almost bought a NH for the same reason! Went with an LS and much to my surprise it showed a picture of a buddy seat in the manual. Talked with the LS dealer, he found the seat in his parts book and when he called the factory they said they weren't importing them. I can see/feel the four blind nuts where it mounts and I'm betting the NH seat will fit.

Yeah I been going to build a bracket myself and add a seat but that's something I won't to take my time so will have to wait. As of right now my son sets in one of those tripod stools,I use for hunting.

 

[TripleR]

Not in so many words I believe I'm evaluating these in the same way. But still i have to find a $ figure i can live with.

Just drove 5083e again. Man its big! I know this is rare on this forum, but probably too big fr my intentions. Salesman from earlier this week was out on a delivery so ill go back this afternoon and see about a fair price. I like the Deeres they have but I probably need a 5075e size instead. August is a ways off and I'm not sure about price/tier4.

Going to go back to kubota after lunch for another look at m7040.

There is also a saying on here, "Sometimes bigger isn't better, sometimes bigger is just bigger." I love the 6000 Series John Deere and MX135 Kubota, but even on our fairly big acreage, they are just too big for my needs, my wife and I looked at one today just browsing.

 

[Notforhire]

There is also a saying on here, "Sometimes bigger isn't better, sometimes bigger is just bigger." I love the 6000 Series John Deere and MX135 Kubota, but even on our fairly big acreage, they are just too big for my needs, my wife and I looked at one today just browsing.

Now if they came with turf tires, and MMM, you could use them to keep the lawn trimmed.

 

[crazyal]

It's all part of the process. Take your time and you'll do fine. You may want to even look into the 8540 and see if you can try the 12/12 transmission.

 

[gocards1177]

It's all part of the process. Take your time and you'll do fine. You may want to even look into the 8540 and see if you can try the 12/12 transmission.

Thanks for the encouragement. No 8540's available at my dealer, but I looked over the 8560 this afternoon. Spent almost 2 hours at the Kubota dealer looking over the M7040 and talking prices/options. And THEN, I went back to Deere and spent another hour this afternoon looking over the 5083E again and talking about prices/options. I kind of got the feeling from both dealers that the prices they were giving me were their "bottom dollars", but I didn't actually ask because I want to keep thinking things over. The Kubota dealer seems to be hovering around 87.5% of MSRP and Deere is at 89%. The more times I go, the more I like the Deere dealer, plus he is 40 minutes closer to my house than Kubota. Furthermore, my initial impression of the Deere this morning followed by the Kubota was that I preferred the 7040 cab. But after driving the Deere a third time, the controls feel more ergonomic and "robust". Plus there's always the buddy seat which I can't get on the Kubota, nor do I think I could do a very good DIY.

I don't think I can go wrong on either. My concern with the Deere is that it's slightly too big for my needs. I can't find any literature comparing fuel consumption on either of these tractors online. I noticed in the Reviews section of this site that there a 5083 owners with less acreage than I plan to maintain, so that makes me feel better. I think to lessen the shock of the monthly payment on the Deere, I will go with a used cutter for now off of Tractorhouse. There seems to be a decent selection. Deleting the cutter from the Deere actually puts the two within a couple of thousand of one another when a used 8ft cutter is included in the 7040 price.

 

[TripleR]

Now if they came with turf tires, and MMM, you could use them to keep the lawn trimmed.

There you go.:thumbsup:

 

[foreman Etexas]

Thanks for the encouragement. No 8540's available at my dealer, but I looked over the 8560 this afternoon. Spent almost 2 hours at the Kubota dealer looking over the M7040 and talking prices/options. And THEN, I went back to Deere and spent another hour this afternoon looking over the 5083E again and talking about prices/options. I kind of got the feeling from both dealers that the prices they were giving me were their "bottom dollars", but I didn't actually ask because I want to keep thinking things over. The Kubota dealer seems to be hovering around 87.5% of MSRP and Deere is at 89%. The more times I go, the more I like the Deere dealer, plus he is 40 minutes closer to my house than Kubota. Furthermore, my initial impression of the Deere this morning followed by the Kubota was that I preferred the 7040 cab. But after driving the Deere a third time, the controls feel more ergonomic and "robust". Plus there's always the buddy seat which I can't get on the Kubota, nor do I think I could do a very good DIY.

I don't think I can go wrong on either. My concern with the Deere is that it's slightly too big for my needs. I can't find any literature comparing fuel consumption on either of these tractors online. I noticed in the Reviews section of this site that there a 5083 owners with less acreage than I plan to maintain, so that makes me feel better. I think to lessen the shock of the monthly payment on the Deere, I will go with a used cutter for now off of Tractorhouse. There seems to be a decent selection. Deleting the cutter from the Deere actually puts the two within a couple of thousand of one another when a used 8ft cutter is included in the 7040 price.

I feed with a 5083,its a guy I help from time to time,I don't really like that short 3point lever and the rpm lever on the dash or the exhaust location but that's just personal pref. I'm just glad he got a cab tractor. Both tractors are nice. Have you looked at the powerstar 4.75 cabs?

 

[Notforhire]

I feed with a 5083,its a guy I help from time to time,I don't really like that short 3point lever and the rpm lever on the dash or the exhaust location but that's just personal pref.View attachment 311693I'm just glad he got a cab tractor. Both tractors are nice. Have you looked at the powerstar 4.75 cabs?

That's another nice tractor to choose from. I have never felt any brand loyalty. They all have their own features, and bad ideas, too.
A friend of mine has a NH TN75 (I think). Nice tractor, except that year NH had the idea to run the power for the loader from the rear remotes with flex lines. There is no float position on the loader. Weird.
As far as that goes I think it was a short lived idea, an was corrected years ago, and if the tractor didn't have a loader, it of course wouldn't be an issue.
I guess my point is, even the big guys do some things that don't alwayse make sense, at least to me.
With the amount of money your going to spend, I would suggest that you check out as many brands/ models as you can.

Bill

 

[hoffmtim]

A lot of good advice here. I personally, after shopping all the brands in my area, went with the 5083e's bigger brother the 5093e. It had a lot to do with Dealers, but I found the Deere cabs to be better in my eyes (we all have our own tastes). I did look at a lot of advice, and even ran across a JD vs Kubota video comparing the E series deere to the 60 series Kubota (albeit the bigger brothers 5101e and 9960 kubota). It was interesting to watch to give ideas what to look at.

Here's a link to it: John Deere 5101E vs Kubota M9960 Utility Tractor Comparison - YouTube

Good luck on your decision!

 

[gocards1177]

Thanks for the video!

 

[DT86]

That video, like any others produced by a manufacturer instead of a independent lab, seems pretty one sided.

While everything they mention may be true, it seems they exaggerate Kubota's short comings and leave out their finer points.

For example they said something like... "This cab was built by Deere, for Deere." They never mention who builds the Kubota cab, implying that it wasn't Kubota.

 

[TripleR]

That video, like any others produced by a manufacturer instead of a independent lab, seems pretty one sided.

While everything they mention may be true, it seems they exaggerate Kubota's short comings and leave out their finer points.

For example they said something like... "This cab was built by Deere, for Deere." They never mention who builds the Kubota cab, implying that it wasn't Kubota.

Agreed, I pay absolutely no attention to videos like this as some of the brand x vs brand y advantages are just personal preferences. Kubota and John Deere as well as others make them. Personally I often find I wish I had a Kubeere or Deota.:laughing:

Or you could just take the simple approach my wife uses. I was recently pointing out a New Holland I like when my wife announced, "Oh I wouldn't want a blue tractor." :laughing:

 

[hoffmtim]

That video, like any others produced by a manufacturer instead of a independent lab, seems pretty one sided.

While everything they mention may be true, it seems they exaggerate Kubota's short comings and leave out their finer points.

For example they said something like... "This cab was built by Deere, for Deere." They never mention who builds the Kubota cab, implying that it wasn't Kubota.

Guys, keep things in perspective. I'm not bashing either, and I get it's a Deere video so it will be "one sided", no different than a Kubota video would be. Its no different than talking to a dealer, their product is always better. I was just pointing out there are many ways to gather information, and these videos can be entertaining. New Holland has one out that trumps up their product against the E series Deere, Kubota and Case. Guess who's is better in that video :thumbsup:.

Have a wonderful day....

 

[TripleR]

hoffmtim, I think we all accept your intent was to be helpful and benign.

I will add that if a dealer ever starts badmouthing the competition, I just walk off. Our Deere and Kubota/NH sells their products by pointing out good points on their machines not weak ones on others.