M7060 Creeper Gears

[murse72]

I think for my purpose of mowing around ponds it will not be an issue

 

[JWR]

The creeper gears are designed for slow speed not maximum torque. I assume they expect there are scenarios where those low gears can generate more torque than some of the drivetrain can take. Hence warning against situations where there are situations where you could get unexpectedly large amounts of traction & resistance. Then the creeper gears torque something to pieces.

Gotcha. Makes sense. They just need an editor to say something like that and avoid the "can not" and the "only". I think the drivetrain will easily stand enough torque to spin the tires regardless of the surface. If it won't, it isn't much of a tractor... I have 2 B2150's both of which came from the factory with a creeper speed. No warnings in the manual but then these machines are around 30 years old.

 

[scdeerslayer]

Gotcha. Makes sense. They just need an editor to say something like that and avoid the "can not" and the "only". I think the drivetrain will easily stand enough torque to spin the tires regardless of the surface. If it won't, it isn't much of a tractor... I have 2 B2150's both of which came from the factory with a creeper speed. No warnings in the manual but then these machines are around 30 years old.

I was going to say that there may be something lost in translation with those instructions and that they might mean those statements to be as absolute as they seem.

 

[Brown Dog]

Old thread resurrected :

So does this creeper gear kit give the 12spd a 3rd Range making it an 18spd ?

A B C / Low Med Hi Ranges with your 6 gears in each range.

OR is it just one speed ONLY : that’s slower than Low Range 1st Gear ?

 

[5030]

Od thread answered, the creep speed gives you 4 creep speeds because the creep geaset acts on the main range gearset so it gives you 4 extra ranges on the main shift. Problem is, it's very deep reduction (made for planting operations) so it's not viable for any travelling work. I have it installed and rarely use it. High in creep is like 3 ranges below high on the main low side.

 

[Brown Dog]

When you say 4 creep speeds is this with an 8spd transmission ?

I thought it was only available for a 12spd trans.

I’m not understanding what your describing ?

My buddy is wanting this to do work in 500’ chicken houses where you need to go real slow.

His 12spd travels too fast in low range 1st gear.

 

[KWentling]

It's 6 additional speeds below the low range 1st gear. Looks like from about .25 mph up to 1 mph with the 16.9x30 rears.

 

[Industrial Toys]

I wish I had opted for this when I put a new transmission in my JD 6200. I wondered how fast it would be in Creeper, Gear 4. Still dead slow or something useable for ditch bank mowing or snow blowing?

So is creeper usually just another range or another gearbox on the output of your existing transmission?

I used to pull long runs of wire using creeper gear on our Universal 445 tractor. Get off the tractor and feed and lube wire going into the conduit. One man operation!

 

[5030]

When you say 4 creep speeds is this with an 8spd transmission ?

I thought it was only available for a 12spd trans.

No, was / is available for any 8 or 12 or more speed main transmission Having said that it is a factory installed option, I do not know if a dealer can install it, mine was ordered that way. I do know it entails serious transmission work.

I’m not understanding what your describing ?

The creep speed gearset is installed in the main case and impacts all traveling speeds (forward and reverse). The creep gears are used to add an additional range.

My buddy is wanting this to do work in 500’ chicken houses where you need to go real slow.

His 12spd travels too fast in low range 1st gear.

I think he will find the install cost prohibitive.

 

[Brown Dog]

It's 6 additional speeds below the low range 1st gear. Looks like from about .25 mph up to 1 mph with the 16.9x30 rears.

This will be PERFECT.
My buddy has 16.9-24 Rear R4 Tires & that also helps slow it down but it’s not enough.

My JD 12spd is about .4mph it could stand to be a touch slower in A-1