I bought a new 4110 in 2002. It now has about 1300 hours on it. I have used it to bush hog, pull a pecan harvester, rake hay, clean out thickets, haul dirt to build a road and many other things. The tractor has been run pretty hard but not abused. I keep the oil changed and keep up with the other preventative maintenance. So far so good!
Mahindra Tractors Quality and Reliability?
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mikeinvt
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As some of you know from my other posts in this section, i just purchased a new 4110. i had done months of research on Kubota and Mahindra before making my final decision. Resale was not a factor in my decision, as i plan to keep my unit for a minimum of 10 yrs anyway. A lot can happen between now and then as far as my work goes, but as of right now on my out look into the future, i bought a big enough unit to allow me to expand my business. My opinion is when i compared the horsepower and weight of the unit to the orange units, Mahindra was on top. Then when the price is at least $5000 less, it made the decision that much easier.
Maybe this is a dumb question....why buy a new tractor if you are already worried about selling it? the only reason i can think of is out growing the tractor for your needs? if you are that worried about resale, stick with green and orange, but if you want a heavy, hard working tractor, give mahindra a chance. in my area, mahindra is starting to take over. i see more new mahindra's then green and orange units. i might only be 10 hrs into my unit, but i know people that have had them for yrs now with no major problems. my dealer told me mahindra has moved up to the #4 spot as far as over all new sales go. i have no proof, just saying what i was told.
good luck to everyone in the market to buy! Mahindra gets my vote! /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
Maybe this is a dumb question....why buy a new tractor if you are already worried about selling it? the only reason i can think of is out growing the tractor for your needs? if you are that worried about resale, stick with green and orange, but if you want a heavy, hard working tractor, give mahindra a chance. in my area, mahindra is starting to take over. i see more new mahindra's then green and orange units. i might only be 10 hrs into my unit, but i know people that have had them for yrs now with no major problems. my dealer told me mahindra has moved up to the #4 spot as far as over all new sales go. i have no proof, just saying what i was told.
good luck to everyone in the market to buy! Mahindra gets my vote! /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
Travis_R
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Mahindra AND my dealership gets my vote, also. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
grunewald
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Stoner, my 3510 is 1 1/2 years old now, 700 hours. No problems at all. Dug a tank (for people not in South Texas it is called a pond) 100 x 70 x 13 deep, thru 3 ft. top soil, 3 ft. of packed flint rock, 7 ft. of yellow clay. Tough little tractor. Tires are cut up pretty good grinding thru the rocks, but not stopping the tractor. Saved alot buying Mahindra, just as tough as any other tractor out there. Extra weight sure does help. Don't think you could go wrong with one. Not a show tractor , a work tractor. Re-sale? Never crossed my mind at purchase. Not a car or truck, which can wear out. The tractor? Don't see it wearing out. If anything, later on in years, could buy another, maybe, but don't see that happening. Did my research, took 2 years for final decision. Re-sale not on my mind, be like trading in my old dog for a newer, prettier one.
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I'm not a Mahindra owner but I tend to believe that the Kubota and JD dealers use the resale argument to their advantage obviously. They definitely have brand recognition and probably better resale but it doesn't appear that Mahindra is in any way lacking in quality or durability when compared to others. When I bought my Cub/Mitsubishi (same line as Mahindra 15 series), a few years ago it was the best I could find for the dollars and the specs to other tractors. I too was worried about the capability but that was more being naive to tractors and not knowing the line as well. Good analogy, it would be like trading in your old dog for a new, prettier one. I could have said wife but you know that would get us all in trouble. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
orangebluegreen
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This thread is way off topic of the original question posed, it said nothing about resale or personalities of TBN posters, but hey, since you’re all off topic I’ll add mine.
IMO resale has in some part to do with the dealer network of the brand. Some brands pay more for trade-in and therefore create an artificial high price for used machines. Have a look at how Honda operates, they are the masters at this. You could base a resale value on historical number of hours a given machine is known to last, but that is beyond what most CUT buyers are going to have access to statistically....probably more suited to large commercial equipment. Resale value may have little to do with quality of a machine but more to do with popularity.
Not that my opinion matters on the following subject because people are what they are and no one will change them nor is it worth trying, but I’ll give my opinion anyways......
There are people everywhere who THINK they’re the all knowing center of the universe that one dare not question....and if questioned (even innocently) they turn passive aggressive rather than prove or defend. These types of personalities apparently have some control and insecurity issues. I too believe in facts, yet most of what I see on TBN is opinion. It does not appear isolated, but more a pattern for a few on TBN. I attribute some of it to many of the posters appear to be here for no other purpose than to sell tractors. Look at how many REAL questions are answered here.....VERY FEW. My bet would be many of the “questions answered” are by shills for the dealers and OEM’s. IMO many questions asked and threads created are multiple aliases creating the appearance of a “conversation” where none really exists, in effect answering their own questions with the answers they want seen. The threads “in response” to price checks appear to stand out, the chiming in of “that’s a great price, I’d buy it before it gets away” bla bla bla......and it’s usually on a high or average price. Who else is motivated to post such? From what I see on TBN, the REAL answers to REAL questions come on the threads that are not brand specific.....and answered by real people, not shills. Probably why the push to fill out your profile.......why so important other than alert your local dealer and target your E-Mail account with advertising.
IMO resale has in some part to do with the dealer network of the brand. Some brands pay more for trade-in and therefore create an artificial high price for used machines. Have a look at how Honda operates, they are the masters at this. You could base a resale value on historical number of hours a given machine is known to last, but that is beyond what most CUT buyers are going to have access to statistically....probably more suited to large commercial equipment. Resale value may have little to do with quality of a machine but more to do with popularity.
Not that my opinion matters on the following subject because people are what they are and no one will change them nor is it worth trying, but I’ll give my opinion anyways......
There are people everywhere who THINK they’re the all knowing center of the universe that one dare not question....and if questioned (even innocently) they turn passive aggressive rather than prove or defend. These types of personalities apparently have some control and insecurity issues. I too believe in facts, yet most of what I see on TBN is opinion. It does not appear isolated, but more a pattern for a few on TBN. I attribute some of it to many of the posters appear to be here for no other purpose than to sell tractors. Look at how many REAL questions are answered here.....VERY FEW. My bet would be many of the “questions answered” are by shills for the dealers and OEM’s. IMO many questions asked and threads created are multiple aliases creating the appearance of a “conversation” where none really exists, in effect answering their own questions with the answers they want seen. The threads “in response” to price checks appear to stand out, the chiming in of “that’s a great price, I’d buy it before it gets away” bla bla bla......and it’s usually on a high or average price. Who else is motivated to post such? From what I see on TBN, the REAL answers to REAL questions come on the threads that are not brand specific.....and answered by real people, not shills. Probably why the push to fill out your profile.......why so important other than alert your local dealer and target your E-Mail account with advertising.
Cliff_Johns
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Life is our most valued possession yet it has no resale value.
I read that somewhere.
Cliff
I read that somewhere.
Cliff
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<font color="blue">There are people everywhere who THINK they’re the all knowing center of the universe that one dare not question....and if questioned (even innocently) they turn passive aggressive rather than prove or defend. These types of personalities apparently have some control and insecurity issues. I too believe in facts, yet most of what I see on TBN is opinion. It does not appear isolated, but more a pattern for a few on TBN. I attribute some of it to many of the posters appear to be here for no other purpose than to sell tractors. Look at how many REAL questions are answered here.....VERY FEW. My bet would be many of the “questions answered” are by shills for the dealers and OEM’s. IMO many questions asked and threads created are multiple aliases creating the appearance of a “conversation” where none really exists, in effect answering their own questions with the answers they want seen. The threads “in response” to price checks appear to stand out, the chiming in of “that’s a great price, I’d buy it before it gets away” bla bla bla......and it’s usually on a high or average price. Who else is motivated to post such? From what I see on TBN, the REAL answers to REAL questions come on the threads that are not brand specific.....and answered by real people, not shills. Probably why the push to fill out your profile.......why so important other than alert your local dealer and target your E-Mail account with advertising. </font>
Wow man, are you paronoid or what ? Please park your black helicopter and go for a tractor ride !
Wow man, are you paronoid or what ? Please park your black helicopter and go for a tractor ride !
orangebluegreen
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Wow man, are you paronoid or what ?” )</font>
No....EXPERIENCED.
Been around stock market message boards for nearly 11 years (same crap as here and far worse) and spent plenty of time at auctions watching hucksters buy back their own equipment and/or force up bids. If you’ve spent time at either you would know what I’m saying.
No....EXPERIENCED.
Been around stock market message boards for nearly 11 years (same crap as here and far worse) and spent plenty of time at auctions watching hucksters buy back their own equipment and/or force up bids. If you’ve spent time at either you would know what I’m saying.
Donnyj
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/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gifHow did we get from a simple topic of Mahindra to stock market message boards??? Wow!!! /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
CMunger
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Don't "Grey Market" tractors bring 7500 to 10,000 in the market? I would say that all used CUTs have pretty good value.
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I hadn't looked at this thread in a week or so. I have to admit, I do get a kick out of some people. Just to make sure, I went back and re-read my posts. I never once said anything but positive things about Mahindra yet a few people got their panties all up in a bunch because I basically said that 1+1=2 and refused to explain to them why that is true. My goodness, some people need to get a grip on reality.
I'd have to say that any legitimate question asked is not a question asked just to get group support from like thinking people. I would have to assume a legitimate question is asked seeking an answer or opinions of some sort. Sorry, but I can't just act like I've never been around tractors and that I've not seen what tractors have been selling for the last 25 years and what tractors demand higher prices due to market forces. I never once said that Mahindra was not a good tractor, but when I stated the obvious, some people wanted to question common knowledge and act like they have had their head in the sand for 30 years. I have not the time nor desire to try to help with personality disorders. If watching the news bothers you, don't watch the news. If facts bother you, don't ask for answers. If you don't like the meaning of words, don't open a dictionary.
I even went so far as to read the rules and to see what the mission, if you will, of this site is. Nowhere did I see that guys must always agree with other people's opinions or that the posting of common knowledge and facts are not allowed. It is actually humorous to see how some guys act. I have this little mental picture of some of these guys sitting in a little cluttered dark room pecking away at their computer looking for group support because some neighbor or co-worker has "insulted" them because when bragging about their tractor, the neighbor or co-worker stated that they had never heard of that brand. The neighbor or co-worker intended no harm and only stated the fact that they had never heard of that brand. The "insulted" guy then runs home, comes here and looks for group support to make them feel better. Should anyone online dare not offer a group hug, the person is again extremely offended. Gees, lighten up and come to the real world where you can realize that absolutely nobody really cares what brand of tractor you own. Nobody. If you like it, be happy with it. Don't be offended by someone not giving you a group hug and congratulating you on your brilliant purchase. If they offer a compliment, great. However, wake up to the fact that it means not to them what color or what brand tractor you have. If someone else tells you that MF has sold more tractors in the world than your tractor manufacturer, or that market demand drives the resale value of a JD tractor higher than what your tractor may be, SO WHAT! If you don't want to hear that, don't ask or don't read this site. I assure you that somewhere somebody is going to eventually say that their brand is better than yours (what else would you expect them to say?). If that is going to cause you such mental anguish, I can't help you.
Here is my original statement about the original question asked: "It would be hard to compare Mahindra to JD or Kubota since those two represent a huge percentage of the U.S. CUT market. However, not to imply that they wouldn't hold their own dollar for dollar against those two, I'd say that a Mahindra tractor stacks up well against any of the "non-big three" manufacturers quite well. Good luck!"
I'll readily say again that Mahindra would likely be my first choice outside one of the products offered by the big three. If you don't like that..., oh well... /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
I'd have to say that any legitimate question asked is not a question asked just to get group support from like thinking people. I would have to assume a legitimate question is asked seeking an answer or opinions of some sort. Sorry, but I can't just act like I've never been around tractors and that I've not seen what tractors have been selling for the last 25 years and what tractors demand higher prices due to market forces. I never once said that Mahindra was not a good tractor, but when I stated the obvious, some people wanted to question common knowledge and act like they have had their head in the sand for 30 years. I have not the time nor desire to try to help with personality disorders. If watching the news bothers you, don't watch the news. If facts bother you, don't ask for answers. If you don't like the meaning of words, don't open a dictionary.
I even went so far as to read the rules and to see what the mission, if you will, of this site is. Nowhere did I see that guys must always agree with other people's opinions or that the posting of common knowledge and facts are not allowed. It is actually humorous to see how some guys act. I have this little mental picture of some of these guys sitting in a little cluttered dark room pecking away at their computer looking for group support because some neighbor or co-worker has "insulted" them because when bragging about their tractor, the neighbor or co-worker stated that they had never heard of that brand. The neighbor or co-worker intended no harm and only stated the fact that they had never heard of that brand. The "insulted" guy then runs home, comes here and looks for group support to make them feel better. Should anyone online dare not offer a group hug, the person is again extremely offended. Gees, lighten up and come to the real world where you can realize that absolutely nobody really cares what brand of tractor you own. Nobody. If you like it, be happy with it. Don't be offended by someone not giving you a group hug and congratulating you on your brilliant purchase. If they offer a compliment, great. However, wake up to the fact that it means not to them what color or what brand tractor you have. If someone else tells you that MF has sold more tractors in the world than your tractor manufacturer, or that market demand drives the resale value of a JD tractor higher than what your tractor may be, SO WHAT! If you don't want to hear that, don't ask or don't read this site. I assure you that somewhere somebody is going to eventually say that their brand is better than yours (what else would you expect them to say?). If that is going to cause you such mental anguish, I can't help you.
Here is my original statement about the original question asked: "It would be hard to compare Mahindra to JD or Kubota since those two represent a huge percentage of the U.S. CUT market. However, not to imply that they wouldn't hold their own dollar for dollar against those two, I'd say that a Mahindra tractor stacks up well against any of the "non-big three" manufacturers quite well. Good luck!"
I'll readily say again that Mahindra would likely be my first choice outside one of the products offered by the big three. If you don't like that..., oh well... /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
rogdan
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Strange ain't it? I just read this thread and figured going in from its lenth it would be controversial. Has anyone else noted this any more than 3 pages of posts in a certain tractor forums, click on it for fireworks /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
I am looking tractors but will not start a comparison thread as I am looking this brand and the two K's /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
I am looking tractors but will not start a comparison thread as I am looking this brand and the two K's /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
orangebluegreen
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( How did we get from a simple topic of Mahindra to stock market message boards??? )</font>
Reading the previous 50 or so messages might answer that question.....hey where is the original poster of the thread “Stoner?”
Reading the previous 50 or so messages might answer that question.....hey where is the original poster of the thread “Stoner?”
Donnyj
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hey where is the original poster of the thread “Stoner?”
I hope he is not reading a stock market message board in hopes of finding out about Mahindra Quality and Reliability /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
I hope he is not reading a stock market message board in hopes of finding out about Mahindra Quality and Reliability /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
orangebluegreen
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I hope he is not reading a stock market message board in hopes of finding out about Mahindra Quality and Reliability )</font>
I don't know, he might do better there eh?
My point was I'm no message board rookie, posted tens of thousands of messages and read hundreds of thousands more. Doesn’t really matter if its cars, tractors or stocks....anywhere where someone is selling something someone will be promoting it. Stock board scammers make TBN look like Disney Land. After threading through the mine field of stock pumpers and scammers for years it’s quite simple to spot the simple back patting and tractor price pumping.
Maybe you could help “stoner” with his question considering your concern.
I don't know, he might do better there eh?
My point was I'm no message board rookie, posted tens of thousands of messages and read hundreds of thousands more. Doesn’t really matter if its cars, tractors or stocks....anywhere where someone is selling something someone will be promoting it. Stock board scammers make TBN look like Disney Land. After threading through the mine field of stock pumpers and scammers for years it’s quite simple to spot the simple back patting and tractor price pumping.
Maybe you could help “stoner” with his question considering your concern.
Bluecheck546
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Stoner asking "How do they compare to a John Deere or a Kubota?" And...... the answer is? Start all over /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Really, there is not clear cut answer, buy the best , biggest that you can afford it, If is JD, then so be it. Ultimately it does not matter what anybody thinks, or say. It's your nickel! /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Really, there is not clear cut answer, buy the best , biggest that you can afford it, If is JD, then so be it. Ultimately it does not matter what anybody thinks, or say. It's your nickel! /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
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What you are saying MIGHT be true for other things , but here at TBN the moderators are pretty darn sharp.
I dont think that goes on much at all here cause Muhammad will kick your butt out faster than you know what happened /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.giffor petty stuff like that.
Has anyone else ever read about this happening here?
I dont think that goes on much at all here cause Muhammad will kick your butt out faster than you know what happened /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.giffor petty stuff like that.
Has anyone else ever read about this happening here?
grunewald
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I spend most of my time in the tractor seat, not reading message boards, guess I don't know that much about my tractor, huh?
orangebluegreen
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Has anyone else ever read about this happening here? )</font>
I had one person private message me who has been around here a lot longer than I who agreed and said he has observed the same things I mentioned....it’s the nature of internet forums really.
I agree TBN is better controlled than most sites, but the brand specific threads are controlled by “insiders” from what I've seen. It’s kind of interesting to view the quality of information and responses to questions on the various brands, makes one wonder if the dealer network and ownership quality isn’t directly related to the quality of messages on these brand specific threads. There are a couple of brands IN MY OPINION that are by far better at real and courteous information, those being NH and MF, followed by Kubota is how I would rank the flow of useful info to specific questions. BTW...noticed no mention of you being a Mahrinda dealer in your profile.
You sound a bit paranoid bud....watch out, they could have you on the homeland security list now. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
What happened, conspiracy theory ? By tractorErnie
I had one person private message me who has been around here a lot longer than I who agreed and said he has observed the same things I mentioned....it’s the nature of internet forums really.
I agree TBN is better controlled than most sites, but the brand specific threads are controlled by “insiders” from what I've seen. It’s kind of interesting to view the quality of information and responses to questions on the various brands, makes one wonder if the dealer network and ownership quality isn’t directly related to the quality of messages on these brand specific threads. There are a couple of brands IN MY OPINION that are by far better at real and courteous information, those being NH and MF, followed by Kubota is how I would rank the flow of useful info to specific questions. BTW...noticed no mention of you being a Mahrinda dealer in your profile.
You sound a bit paranoid bud....watch out, they could have you on the homeland security list now. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
What happened, conspiracy theory ? By tractorErnie
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