Marijuana on the job

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They say the CBL oil or whatever it is works, I don't know if it does or not but I don't want any of it near me, especially the smoke.. Why anyone would want to pull smoke into the the only set of lungs they are gonna get this time around is beyond me..

Agreed, smoking anything is a real health risk factor and I bet many of you smoke cigarettes or cigars or did once.
I find the smell of pot obnoxious but then so is the smell of most cigars. CBD is short for Cannabidiol, which does not get you high, does not affect performance or driving or anything from what I've read other than being a plant based pain killer. It works wonders on folks with arthritis, folks even give it to their arthritic dogs and it works there too. This is medicine, not Cheech and Chong material.
And usually it is in an oil form, administered in drops or a salve, as I use on my wrists and hands. It really works...at least comparable to lidocaine alternatives and longer lasting.

I think it's important we are clear on terms. It's THC that is the issue, not CBD and because they come from basically the same plant they get confused all the time. You shouldn't throw out CBD with the THC bathwater... Farmers in my area are now planting a lot of hemp in order to produce CBD for the medical industry. They need special licenses, inspection, etc because looking at the plant, apparently you can't see the difference. My primary doc even suggested to me I try CBD because she had heard good things about it.
My drug store owner just went to a convention where CBD was a main topic. So one is medicine and one is recreational.
Having said that, based on my reading, most "pot" is some mixture of both. Apparently you need a proper refining process to get CBD without THC in it. So....most marijuana has a degree of THC in it, and yes, for many people, the higher the THC content the better, the more of a buzz you get. It's the buzz that creates unsafe conditions and what you don't want your forklift operator using at lunch time.

My sense of smell is strong enough I can smell someone smoking cigarettes in the car in front of me on the highway. I gag when coming out of restaurants when the air reeks of cigarette smoke from folks smoking near the door. I honestly can't imagine what the Californians do in public areas. Personally I don't think any of us have the right to stink up the place.
 
   / Marijuana on the job #92  
If CBD were that great, a drug company would have marketed it 50 years ago. Believe you me they are always looking for another way to make millions off of our health problems. The issue is good research on the products. We dont really know how CBD adversely affects humans because it isnt recognized and regulated by the FDA. That is all fine and good until we figure out it causes some irreversible illness down the road. I am all for herbal products but it doesnt mean they are safe just because they are plant derived.

Like everything else, put what you want in your body just dont expect society to pay for it when things dont go well. To complicate matters, I wonder how many druggies will say this isnt THC, this is just CBD and be lying about it to authorities...driving vehicles and hurting others. Slippery slope and we all know there are thousands of dishonest people out there waiting to take advantage.
 
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both for the Doc and Patients as pharmacists refuse to fill prescriptions for these terminally ill...

Usually its the insurance provider refusing to fill. Pharmacies backed off on supply because of the insurance fiascos. Now, they order(usually 24 hours) in as needed once the paperwork is all approved. (According to my buddy that owns 3 pharmacies)
 
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The new twist is the extra $6,000 vacant property tax the city has... so he could potentially have to pay thousands each year to keep his units vacant... honest.

Is this a punishment for not allowing more section 8 vouchers ? Or some sort of an answer to the homeless crisis that keeps building?
"Living in a vehicle is obviously better than living in a tent or a box it痴 a kind of middle-class homelessness."

Vehicular homelessness is on the rise. Should cities help people sleep in their cars?
Living in a parking lot amid Santa Barbara's wealth is a kind of middle-class homelessness - Los Angeles Times
 
   / Marijuana on the job #95  
Usually its the insurance provider refusing to fill. Pharmacies backed off on supply because of the insurance fiascos. Now, they order(usually 24 hours) in as needed once the paperwork is all approved. (According to my buddy that owns 3 pharmacies)

It really has been, at least several that I know, a problem with large Norco scripts...

There have been several high profile cases of Docs, PA and Pharmacies called pill mills...
 
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Is this a punishment for not allowing more section 8 vouchers ? Or some sort of an answer to the homeless crisis that keeps building?
"Living in a vehicle is obviously better than living in a tent or a box itç—´ a kind of middle-class homelessness."

Vehicular homelessness is on the rise. Should cities help people sleep in their cars?
Living in a parking lot amid Santa Barbara's wealth is a kind of middle-class homelessness - Los Angeles Times

Said to address the crisis in Housing... applies to vacant lots, vacant apartments, vacant single family homes... kind of reminds me of the 1965 movie Doctor Zhivago...

Where the owner of the house comes home and finds strangers living there because the Housing Commissar has decided he has more house than is needed.

It's ironic because just a few years back there was not a block in this city without a boarded up or vacant foreclosure home... people simply walked away.

Also, ironic because a developer has been trying for years to build single family homes on property zoned for single family and the sewer is already in... the holdup is critical habitat for a snake...
 
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Where the owner of the house comes home and finds strangers living there because the Housing Commissar has decided he has more house than is needed.

:laughing: Wasnt it in Texas where squatters were doing a similar thing?
 
   / Marijuana on the job #99  
This is tough. When is a person impaired?
 
   / Marijuana on the job #100  
This is tough. When is a person impaired?

that's the big question, and how does an employer deal with false positives on a test that shows use of a legit medicine (100 % CDB) which not only does not impair, it actually helps the employee do their job because they aren't in so much pain. If you have never experienced severe arthritis, and/or in my case, degenerative disc disease, this may be hard to understand.

Went to local ag extension meeting yesterday and one of the topics was growing hemp. Huge interest in it, despite all the hoops and red tape involved, can't get your crop insured, if it tests over a minute amount of THC you have to burn the field, etc, but what I found interesting is that there is so much interest in growing hemp for medical CBD, the farmers are worried the price will drop like everything else and once again there will be no money in it.
 

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