Missing 777

   / Missing 777 #41  
One of commenters on CNN's story said (yes, I get all my straight info from internet comments :laughing:) that with the transponder off, there are large areas around the world where radar tracking is not present. If that is true, then this could be coincidence, or that particular flight could have been targeted knowing it would be easy to drop off radar coverage.

It sounds like the engine to satellite pings don't contain specific location information, but maybe that could be triangulated like GPS, the ping must have a time stamp?
 
   / Missing 777 #42  
It's interesting to hear everyone's theories. Theories are based on life experiences. Some are optimistic. Some are pessimistic. Some are scientific. Some are science fiction.

With the life experiences I have to utilize, I think evil. Humans are the most evil species on this planet. Humans also can't keep secrets. It's been over a week I believe?? Someone would have leaked information if there is anyone alive that has information. I say it's crashed and all are dead. The reason will be known. Because along with their evil disposition, humans also like to brag.

That's coming at it from a pretty jaded & cynical angle. Sorry to say, I agree with you 100%. :( Still hope we're both wrong.
 
   / Missing 777 #43  
For sale newer Boeing 777, recent paint... Should I post this in the classified section ?
 
   / Missing 777 #44  
So could someone have high jacked the aircraft, killed all passengers and then they
plan to turn it into a flying bomb and fly it into what?

That's too James Bond-ish to be real. I suspect they will find debris before another week goes by.
 
   / Missing 777 #45  
The passengers would be worth more alive than dead in some sort of terrorism plot. Not much leverage in corpses.
 
   / Missing 777 #46  
The passengers would be worth more alive than dead in some sort of terrorism plot. Not much leverage in corpses.

Terror is not ransom motivated. It is playing to fear. That's what makes it so valuable for progressives here in the states as they expand government power.
 
   / Missing 777 #47  
Ding, ding, we have a winner for the greatest winner for non-sequitur of all time! :applause::firecracker::alert::trophy::point:

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: an inference that does not follow from the premises; specifically : a fallacy resulting from a simple conversion of a universal affirmative proposition or from the transposition of a condition and its consequent
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: a statement (as a response) that does not follow logically from or is not clearly related to anything previously said

Terror is not ransom motivated. It is playing to fear. That's what makes it so valuable for progressives here in the states as they expand government power.

Latest this morning is that altitude varied between 45,000 ft and 10,000 ft. I guarantee you that I'd be terrified on such a plane if I were awake and aware of such altitude changes via changes in pressure or g forces or :shocked:??...:shocked:

According to a press release published by DigitalGlobe on Monday, volunteers can aid the mission by signing up at the group’s Tomnod platform, where they can begin “combing through satellite imagery for clues that may help locate the missing aircraft.”
 
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   / Missing 777 #48  
Terror is not ransom motivated. It is playing to fear. That's what makes it so valuable for progressives here in the states as they expand government power.

And that's why we have the Patriot Act??:confused2:
 
   / Missing 777 #49  
The national news is reporting that it is now considered a "deliberate act". I would guess that we can no longer ignore the obvious. Smells like
a highjacking to me.
 
   / Missing 777 #50  
The national news is reporting that it is now considered a "deliberate act". I would guess that we can no longer ignore the obvious. Smells like
a highjacking to me.


And solved here on TBN:D:laughing:
 
   / Missing 777 #51  
It just keeps getting more bizarre. Missing jet flew on for 7 hours, Malaysian PM says - The Washington Post

I don't have a clue what happened to the plane or why, but the longer this goes on, the more tidbits of information that comes out, the more it does seem like this is a very well planned, almost movie quality, operation. Seems almost too perfect and thought out, especially now that they are saying it was flying for seven hours after it disappeared!!!!

Now they are looking at either Western Australia or areas around Pakistan. It's obvious that there was a pilot who knows what he is doing operating the plane and that they went to a lot of effort to turn everything off that would track them. I just don't see any other reason for this unless you are planning on landing the plane somewhere.

Eddie
 
   / Missing 777 #52  
   / Missing 777 #54  
Another day, another contradiction. At this point the "news" is nothing but speculation.
 
   / Missing 777 #56  
This thing gets more bizarre by the day. Malaysia didn't help the situation by delaying for 2 or 3 days international assistance in the search efforts.
Hope I'm wrong but we may not get closure on this for many years.
 
   / Missing 777 #57  
The Washington Post had a very unique map that shows two possible arcs along which the last none ping was received. One arc is north of, and the other is south of, Malaysia. The article does not say why there are two arcs but I assume it is because the possible positions along the arcs are derived from the time the engine pings took to get to the single satellite. If two satellites had received the ping then we would know the position of the last ping.

map-malaysia.jpg

Since the northern of the arcs is well over land, somewhere from what looks like one corner of La0s, over China and ending in a bit Kazahkstan and given that the last public radar position is on the west side of Malaysia, it seems unlikely that the plane could have crossed the coast lines of and crossed a county or two without being seen on radar or the Mark I eyeball.

That leaves the southern arc which is in a very remote area of the world and only two countries that would have radar coverage. Australia and Indonesia. It looks like the closest the plane could have gotten to Australia was a bit over 700 miles. Because the Aussie coastline recedes away from the possible last position arc, the plan was mostly likely much farther from Australia than 700 miles. Does Australia have radar coverage in that part of the country that can see out a 1,000 miles? I kinda doubt it.

The most likely location of the plane is on the southern arc south of Indonesia and along the coast of Australia. But much closer to Australia than Indonesia since the northern most part of the southern arc is near Jakarta. Surely Jakarta radar would have picked up the plane at the position and it would have been difficult for the plane to have gotten to that area without being seen if flying at lower altitude.

If it was terrorism per say and the pilot was ticked off at the Chinese governments treatment of Moslims, why not crash the plane in the capital of China? It would have been easy to do since that was the destination of the plane.

The mostly likely answer is that the plane is sitting on the bottom of the Indian ocean after one of the flight crew went bonkers. Just like what happened to the Egyptian plane a few years ago.

Later,
Dan
 
   / Missing 777 #58  
Why were there no phone calls / texts/ anything like that from any of the passengers? if the plane had spent all that extra time in the air were all the passengers already out of commission?


Roger
 
   / Missing 777 #59  
Why were there no phone calls / texts/ anything like that from any of the passengers? if the plane had spent all that extra time in the air were all the passengers already out of commission?


Roger

The pilot may have killed or knocked out the passengers by flying to higher altitude or depressurized the cabin if that can be done by control. The flight is supposed to have gone over 40,000 feet which seems to be an altitude that would cause problems for the passengers. At some point, the passengers would have figured out they were not on course since so many people have smart phones and they could have tracked the flight and most likely started causing a ruckous. Depending on where this happened, they would not have had cell service. Or the passengers were already out of service because of depressurization or being taken to an altitude over 40,000 feet.

Later,
Dan
 
   / Missing 777 #60  
The national news is reporting that it is now considered a "deliberate act". I would guess that we can no longer ignore the obvious. Smells like
a highjacking to me.

i do not doubt that 'many' govts are holding onto 'classified' data concerning this and not, or only slowly releasing bits of it. Who knows. they whole enchelada may already be 100% figured out and could have been from the get go and they are just trying to figure out how to spin it...
 

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