My Industrial Cabin Build

747driver · Mar 29, 2020

WoodChuckDad said:
I guess I never thought about the flooring for the attic, only the spacing for support of the roof.

You will use it for the ceiling below, so you have something to nail whatever you are using for the ceiling along the outside edge.

WoodChuckDad · Mar 29, 2020

My wife woke me up this morning with a look of dread. “The dishwasher doesnt work “
I spent the last two hours tearing apart the dishwasher to fix it. Back in business.
Now Im about to head to the farm to work on the house while my wife works in the orchard.
The next videos should be interesting. We were putting up the trusses and ran into a very obvious issue. I spent several hours yesterday taking measurements and figuring out what was wrong and why and coming up with an idea of how to address it.
Accumulated error again. I was measuring off the back wall to set the ridge line. The back wall isn’t perfectly plumb. My trusses are about 23 feet ling, made from two 2x10x 16ft. I got the laser out and spent some time marking lines for the roof supports. I have to cut down some of the work we did.

ededic · Mar 29, 2020

WoodChuckDad said:
I have been swamped this week. And finally sat down to edit video from two weeks ago. I wanted to get much more done but only managed to get the decking in place in the attic space and cut one truss to test it out.
An attic floor and cutting the trusses. DIY SIPs house build #40 - YouTube

WoodChuck, Another great video. Thanks for the detail. Man I forgot the original plans and thought for a while now you were putting a second story over the bedroom area and that the roof line of the SIP panel was going to be lower than the second floor which is why you would not need another joist tight against the wall. However, when you explained that it was only an attic to store Christmas decorations, I was like holy heck, those are some heavy Christmas decorations! With 2x12s I would think you could park a truck up there. I know from watching, you overbuild like me so I get where you come from on this.

Ed

Steppenwolfe · Mar 29, 2020

WoodChuckDad said:
My wife woke me up this morning with a look of dread. “The dishwasher doesnt work “
I spent the last two hours tearing apart the dishwasher to fix it. Back in business.
Now Im about to head to the farm to work on the house while my wife works in the orchard.
The next videos should be interesting. We were putting up the trusses and ran into a very obvious issue. I spent several hours yesterday taking measurements and figuring out what was wrong and why and coming up with an idea of how to address it.
Accumulated error again. I was measuring off the back wall to set the ridge line. The back wall isn’t perfectly plumb. My trusses are about 23 feet ling, made from two 2x10x 16ft. I got the laser out and spent some time marking lines for the roof supports. I have to cut down some of the work we did.

How far out are we talking? My wife bought me this set 15 years ago for my birthday.Stabila Type 196 6 Piece Level Set 78496. Contractors Direct Probably so I wouldn't have any more excuses...

WoodChuckDad · Mar 30, 2020

Steppenwolfe said:
How far out are we talking? My wife bought me this set 15 years ago for my birthday.Stabila Type 196 6 Piece Level Set 78496. Contractors Direct Probably so I wouldn't have any more excuses...

That taller wall was about 1 1/4 out of line at the end. By the tine you get across the house its significant so it needed to be changed.
Yesterday I started taking the trusses off and changing it. In addition, the lower truss support wall was not completely level. The bubble level said it was but the laser showed that it was 3/4 inch higher at the inner end. Even though measurements from the floor are the same. I am taking it down today and rebuilding it.
Then I am pushing forward.

EddieWalker · Mar 30, 2020

WoodChuckDad said:
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That taller wall was about 1 1/4 out of line at the end. By the tine you get across the house its significant so it needed to be changed.
Yesterday I started taking the trusses off and changing it. In addition, the lower truss support wall was not completely level. The bubble level said it was but the laser showed that it was 3/4 inch higher at the inner end. Even though measurements from the floor are the same. I am taking it down today and rebuilding it.
Then I am pushing forward.

Curious how your wall was so far off. Is the foundation level? Are all the studs being cut to the same length? How good is your level? I have four levels that are three diffeerent brands. Bostik was a brand that Home Depot used to carry that I really like. Before buying a level, I put it on the floor in the store, see what it reads, then I flip it over and see if I get the same reading. Most will give me a different reading, which means that they are not accurate.

Lazer levels are very good, but also very expensive. Cheaper lazer levels have a huge plus minus range of where they read. How accurate is yours?

I'm confused at your use of the term truss when describing your roof. Your pictures show a rafter system, not a trusses. Will there be trusses over other areas of the house?

WoodChuckDad · Mar 30, 2020

ededic said:
WoodChuck, Another great video. Thanks for the detail. Man I forgot the original plans and thought for a while now you were putting a second story over the bedroom area and that the roof line of the SIP panel was going to be lower than the second floor which is why you would not need another joist tight against the wall. However, when you explained that it was only an attic to store Christmas decorations, I was like holy heck, those are some heavy Christmas decorations! With 2x12s I would think you could park a truck up there. I know from watching, you overbuild like me so I get where you come from on this.

Ed

I overbuild and my architect over designs.

As for the level, i am using a Bosch laser level I borrowed from my architect (he is Also a good friend) who just build a rental cabin at his Vineyard and is building a larger kitchen on the wedding hall that they have.
Its a very accurate self leveling laser. Each piece of the wall was cut the same. I guess a bit of error and perhaps not perfectly level concrete. I will be sure to shoot good video that shows what I am dealing with. I was under the weather this morning but feeling better, so I am about to head to the build site

buckeyefarmer · Mar 30, 2020

Check square on all things by measuring opposite corners both ways. For walls the top has to be square like the bottom.

Use plumb bob to see where top of your ridge is with respect to where it measures on the slab.

There’s always a little bit you can fudge, but your roof panels won’t be too forgiving if the rafters underneath aren’t square. One of the SIP videos I watched mentioned some pointers if not quite square.

I had my design in CAD, and would grab from drawing dimensions to cut rafters, etc.