My Ride-on Tracked dumper

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Hoping to speed things up while I have some time off over the Holidays. Heeding the Hydraulics advise but not wanting to go as far as carrying 400lbs of Hydraulic fluid, I have mated a 5 gallon and 10 gallon tank together. With the weight of tank this will still add 200 lbs. I extended the vent so will have two vents. Also I took a 7 gallon portable air tank and converted into a gas tank. When I noticed that the tank had a 2003 expiry date (probably had it for 20 years) the deal was sealed. It turns out that there was zero rust in the tank and should be a good strong unit.
 

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   / My Ride-on Tracked dumper #133  
Howdy David. I wish I had ran across this thread much earlier. First, I have to say I am impressed! I used to work on tracked vehicles in the Army. Everything from M-109 series of self propelled artillery, to the M-113 family of armored personal vehicles, to the large M-88A1 tank retrievers. After I got out of the Army, I went to school for mechanical engineering.

Before I say anything else, I'd like to preface what I'm about to say (post?) with, I'm not trying to take over your project or tell you what to do. No "however" next. It's your project, you do it your way.

I was wondering if there was any reason you decided to make your own track instead buying a pair off the shelf. If you did, you could use the same roadwheels as the vehicle that uses the track you settled for. http://www.scohn.com/siteart/rubber-tracks.jpg


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A problem I see may arise is your tires/wheels. There is quite a bit of lateral force that's applied on the roadwheels during a turn. Every tracked vehicle I worked on had hardened wear plates for the centerguides to rub against on the roadwheels. As you can see in the picture, the aluminum roadwheels have rust. As you know, aluminum don't rust. That's a hardened steel wear ring that's attached to the roadwheel. Those rubber tires are going to get shredded in no time flat (No pun intended). Using off the shelf parts will take care of all these problems.

If I offended anyone with the way I presented what I know, I sincerely apologize. I never was very politically correct. I don't mean to step on anyone's toes. All I am doing is trying to help with problems I see will arise due to the experience I have.
 
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Have you ever priced a track and running gear? No offense taken, I know this might not work and I may be making lots of changes along the way and I have already made many. I am hoping the physics of tracked vehicles is a bit different on a 1200 lb vehicle vs a 12,000 lb one. I was looking more at muskeg tractors then tanks when designing. Soon as I find a good price on solid rubber wheels I will start upgrading.

thanks
 
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   / My Ride-on Tracked dumper #135  
Ive seen the old Bombardier Swamp bugs and skidders that use the old belted tracks with car type wheels and differentials still working well. Dad lived in South Carolina in the 70's and said tghe pulp wood loggers used them alot in marshes to drag out trees for stick wood.
 
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I had considered tire driven tracks but I find that my tracked wheel barrow will slip a wheel from time to time. This vehicle and argos power each wheel so there is less chance of a track slipping. There is a nice homemade tracked hydraulic unit on Youtube that uses rubber wheels and four hydraulic motors.
 
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Interesting how the Argo uses 4 sets of rubber tracks. That looks to be a nice simple solution to get around the need for idler wheels and tensioners.
 
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Hi Dave,

This has been such a good story to follow! I truly enjoy seeing the fabrication of all the parts you've needed, after all, necessity is the mother of invention!

I have one question with respect to the sprocket drives, and I think of this based on my experience with snowmobiles. Are the sprocket teeth wide enough to prevent excessive wear on the track bars or the sprockets themselves, or, is that a non issue for your application? I've seen the teeth on my sleds wear down more quickly than usual (long term) when I pull a trail groomer or a heavy sleigh (recognizing they are plastic sprockets on a sled riding on steel track clips vs. steel on your machine).

Best of the season to you!

Graham

Okay, mocking up the idlers so had to put the tracks on. Determined that my track tensioners are not strong enough. Afraid stronger ones will require beefing up the front wheels.
 
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